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Re: formal objection to one vendor/one vote

From: Joe D Williams <joedwil@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:53:03 -0700
Message-ID: <A8BD08E8555747EC9DCA02D3196AD7C1@joe1446a4150a8>
To: "Sam Ruby" <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com>
Cc: "HTMLWG WG" <public-html@w3.org>
> "we continue
to struggle".

That is the correct attitude, I think. It it was easy, then a solution 
would be clear. I will aim at producing some reasonalbe information to 
help guide the effort. My general feeling is that we should produce 
somehting that actually gives

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Singer" <singer@apple.com>
To: "Sam Ruby" <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Cc: "HTMLWG WG" <public-html@w3.org>
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: formal objection to one vendor/one vote


> At 10:05  -0400 13/07/09, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>David Singer wrote:
>>>At 9:51  -0400 13/07/09, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>>>David Singer wrote:
>>>>>At 7:08  -0400 13/07/09, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At the present time, I am not aware of anybody actually pursuing 
>>>>>>an alternative to what Ian has proposed in terms of required 
>>>>>>codecs. Unless I can find an owner for Issue-7, my intent is to 
>>>>>>(eventually) close it as resolved.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, I am aware of people working on some of the issues around 
>>>>>Ogg/Theora, I am aware of W3C staff member(s) who are looking at 
>>>>>the situation, I have said several times I have and still am 
>>>>>trying to pursue solutions when I can (though, I grant you, with 
>>>>>nothing to report so far), so it's not quite true no-one is 
>>>>>working on the problem.
>>>>
>>>>I am looking for an owner to that action item.  If you are 
>>>>pursuing solutions, it might make sense for you to be the owner. 
>>>>Are you volunteering?
>>>
>>>as long as there is an open issue on this question, I don't think 
>>>it will make much practical difference, and assigning my name might 
>>>be taken as an implication I think I know how to solve the problem 
>>>(which I don't, but I continue to explore).  so, I guess this is a 
>>>'no, let's leave an open un-assigned issue for now'.
>>
>>My intention is that make there be a very practical difference: 
>>issues 7 has been open since 2007.  Recently, Ian made a provisional 
>>decision. If nobody steps forward in the next few weeks to take 
>>ownership of issue 7, I am fully prepared to close the issue.
>>
>>If anyone would like to see this item remain open, I ask them to 
>>step forward at this time.  If someone does so, I will periodically 
>>ask that person to report on status.
>
> I think that it is an open issue, whether we identify it as such or 
> not.  If you need a name to keep it formally open, then you could 
> use mine, sure.
>
> The trouble is that this issue pretty much has either nothing to 
> report, or success;  the periodic status is likely yo be "we 
> continue to struggle".
>
> Having my name on it gives the correct impression that we're not 
> happy either.  However, I am concerned that some may feel that I 
> took the ownership in order to do nothing, or make sure nothing is 
> done (which I cannot, in fact, ensure, of course).
>
> I'll let you make the call...
> -- 
> David Singer
> Multimedia Standards, Apple Inc.
> 
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