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Re: ISSUE-76: Need feedback on splitting Microdata into separate specification

From: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:34:18 -0600
Message-ID: <643cc0270912031634p5c28cc25uc01b375c8b9be0b6@mail.gmail.com>
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Cc: James Graham <jgraham@opera.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, public-html <public-html@w3.org>
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2009, at 12:21 PM, James Graham wrote:
>> On the other hand I accept that in some cases other considerations might
>> be more important than how usable the spec is for me. In the specific case
>> of microdata however many of the arguments presented for splitting the spec
>> seem to boil down to it being "unfair" to have microdata in the main spec
>> and RDFa outside it. I don't think arguments based on perceived fairness are
>> valid technical arguments and as such I don't think they should be given
>> much weight.
> Question for James and Tab (and whoever else thinks Microdata should be in
> because it's a good technology and better than RDFa):
> Let's set aside for the moment your view that Microdata is a better
> technical solution than RDFa. Let's assume that we were unable to decide
> which of RDFa or Microdata is better, and for whatever reason it's not
> possible to make a technology with all of the advantages and none of the
> disadvantages of both. Let's also stipulate that we think the use cases they
> address are worth addressing. In that case, what would be the right course
> of action for the Working Group? Include both in the main spec? Include
> neither? Something else?
> Regards,
> Maciej

You specifically focused this at people who support keeping microdata
in the spec, so apologies for jumping in, when I'm not part of the
group invited to respond.

I don't want to seem like I'm trying to quash any discussion, but your
questions, Maciej, seem to take us back to ground zero again.

We have a separate RDFa spec, and I believe the group supporting it
has applied for a charter -- it's off, doing its own thing, regardless
of what happens with Microdata.

So, RDFa exists, is on its own, and is off and running. Whatever
happens with to Microdata won't impact on it -- do I have that

If so, can we just focus on the proposal, which inspired this thread?
About keeping microdata in HTML5 or not? Am I out of line suggesting

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