- From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:56:08 -0700
- To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Cc: Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>, public-html@w3.org
On Aug 12, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > Shelley Powers wrote: >> David Singer wrote: >>> At 10:54 -0500 12/08/09, Shelley Powers wrote: >>>> Thanks for the update. Unfortunate for HTML and for the Canvas >>>> element. A future formal objection most likely. >>> >>> Shelley, when you say things like this, they sound like threats. >>> At the moment, we are supposed to be working together to resolve >>> issues and do our best to stay on schedule. I'd rather ask the >>> question "what can we do, or ask be done, to keep to our schedule >>> while providing good accessibility for canvas?" >> No, I am stating a fact. I can't do anything about canvas being in >> the HTML 5 specification now, because of the past vote. I can >> respect that, and won't bring it up in this group again. >> However, I plan on issuing a formal objection about it being >> included at the proper time, I imagine during the Last Call process. > > I'll echo DanC's previous comments[1]: > > I don't think last call is an appropriate time to register > formal objections. The appropriate time is after chair proposes > to close an issue and asks "any objections?" and before the chair > actually announces the outcome of the decision. > > Previously, he referred to this as being "out of order", which > literally means done in the wrong order, as well as meaning not > functioning well[2]. > > More to the point: if you have objections, please raise them now. > Don't wait. I will note that you have already raised two: > > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/76 > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/77 > > I know this will sound odd, but thank you for doing this, > particularly issue 76. I have more that I want to say about this, > but I would rather wait until the current poll is over. I don't know if you meant to suggest that Shelley should raise her canvas objection in the issue tracker. But if so, I think that would be out of order. The issue is closed and the outcome has already been announced, by a previous Chair. Raising a new issue tracker issue would amount to reopening the issue - we can only do that based on new information. I don't think it would be out of order for her to enter a Formal Objection now, if she chooses to do so, since she wasn't a member of the WG at the time. Regards, Maciej
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