- From: John Foliot <foliot@wats.ca>
- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:04:55 -0700
- To: "'Henri Sivonen'" <hsivonen@iki.fi>, "'Matt Morgan-May'" <mattmay@adobe.com>
- Cc: "'Leif Halvard Silli'" <lhs@malform.no>, "'HTML WG'" <public-html@w3.org>, "'W3C WAI-XTECH'" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Henri Sivonen wrote: > On Sep 9, 2008, at 23:16, Matt Morgan-May wrote: > >> HTML5 should have support for secondary audio tracks in any event. >> Multilingual programming is another viable use case. > > However, modeling the selection mechanism for multilingual programming > is much more difficult than modeling the selection mechanism for audio > description, so the problems of conflating captioning and subtitling > apply here as well (with the twist that additional audio tracks take > more bandwidth, so it is less likely for additional audio tracks to > get muxed into the same stream). I agree with Henri here - bandwidth is an issue. However Matt's point of assuring that the different support pieces can be referenced from within the <video> object must exist, and then we can supply actual url/content via user-choice mechanisms. I had previously pointed out the following which illustrates well what I believe we need to have supported natively (or at least very close to...): <snip> TEST CASES / EXAMPLES: Some good examples "in the wild" of this type of functionality can be found at: http://ecorner.stanford.edu/authorMaterialInfo.html?mid=1716 http://ecorner.stanford.edu/authorMaterialInfo.html?mid=1171 (both videos feature multi-language text options (subtitles) that can be toggled on or off - a perfect case where this type of functionality enhances all user's experience and extends the usefulness of the media asset. As well, the time-stamped transcripts, being external files, can also be further processed via XSLT <sic> or similar [the "Transcript" link] and provided as on-screen html text - a real SEO consideration as well - a virtual "cut-curb" of the highest value. This has to be seen as a win-win IMHO) http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=Making_video_accessible (the Coronation street example features both closed captioning *and* descriptive audio - almost completely unheard of on the web today, but not due to a lack of need, but rather of complexity in implementation to date) While these examples have some problems (my friends at Apple have issues with a flash based player and Voiceover, and of course these do not work in the iPhone), but the *idea* I believe is worth exploring as a starting point for the type of functionality that HTML 5 should afford natively. </snip> JF
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