- From: Justin Anthony Knapp <justinkoavf@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:01:45 -0400
- To: "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <207d16d0809011301n54fa1d1dk1b1982f57919afc8@mail.gmail.com>
Other Justin has certainly described my situation - I am not on of the few dozen ideal editors. I joined this group because I knew a decent amount about HTML and something about how browsers work and I wanted to help fix the problems that I saw in HTML, but I've gotten in over my head in terms of volume and technical skill. Sometimes I peek in on these messages to see what's happening, but generally I just see that I've gotten e-mails from one of the eight or so persons who are primarily developing HTML5 - Ian, Olivier, Other Justin, Henri, etc. That's not a complaint - maybe sour grapes - but my assessment of the problem of looking for more editors. I think that Other Justin is pretty much dead-on. -JAK On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Justin James <j_james@mindspring.com>wrote: > > I agree, that list of qualifications is a "wish list". While it is a great > list, I agree with the sentiment expressed by other that at this point, you > will have to accept anyone who steps up and volunteers, and see how it > goes. > That list describes... what... a few *dozen* people on the planet maybe? > 100, tops? > > It is a shame that there is no funding for this. Only a very small number > of > companies have enough care for HTML and the money to actually pay an > employee to be the editor, which in turn can lead to the *appearance* of a > conflict of interest. > > I'm not normally a pessimist, but I think this is a no-win situation. From > my experience with hiring people (try hiring truly senior, "uber-nerd" > developers in Columbia South Carolina, if you want an impossible staffing > request), the best approach, as Charles and others have pointed out, it > might be time to go lateral with your thinking. Don't look at the > *experiences* that are needed, look at the *traits* and the *skills* that > are needed. From there, look for people that are technically minded, and > with at least enough understanding of HTML and the industry to not make a > mess. Let's get honest, it doesn't take an HTML/browser wizard to see if > paragraph 4.2.1.2a is in contradiction with subsection 7j. It just takes > someone with a really strong mind and a good grasp of logic and language. > > I would suggest that if such a person were found and tricked into taking > the > job... I mean... volunteered themselves... that they could split the work > with Ian (who has great tools and talent). > > J.Ja > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: public-html-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-request@w3.org] On > > Behalf Of Julian Reschke > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 6:16 AM > > To: Ian Hickson > > Cc: HTML WG > > Subject: Re: Looking for more editors > > > > > > > > Ian Hickson wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008, Julian Reschke wrote: > > >> Anyway, if each feedback loop takes two years we have a serious > > problem > > >> that we need to fix, for instance by installing more editors [...] > > > > > > I've been asking for people to volunteer to actually take parts of > > HTML5 > > > and edit them for years now. The problem is that very few people are > > > actually willing to invest the (large) amount of time and effort > > required. > > > There are a number of areas where we've actually tried finding > > editors: > > > ... > > > > Ian, > > > > as Philip, I agree with some of these, but not all of them. The way you > > describe the job it's unlikely you'll find somebody. > > > > Furthermore, while I agree it would be good if parts of the spec could > > be moved into stand-alone documents, I don't think that this will be > > sufficient -- unless we really cut the spec into different parts for > > vocabulary, parsing, DOM and additional APIs. > > > > I don't think I would qualify myself, mainly because my background > > doesn't include many things you're asking for, and also because I > > already have committed myself to the editor role on that other > > important > > spec. > > > > BR, Julian > > > > -- *Shalom and agape to all* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Sahara o______ | \_____| | )_(*__| | /_____| | | For Taiwan (ROC), Tibet, West Papua, and Western Sahara
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