- From: Robert J Burns <rob@robburns.com>
- Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 14:09:06 +0000
- To: James Graham <jg307@cam.ac.uk>
- Cc: Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, HTML Working Group <public-html@w3.org>
Hi James, On May 4, 2008, at 1:24 PM, James Graham wrote: > > I think the current behavior of KompoZer (the Nvu fork that is > shipped with the current Ubuntu release) is both an example of a UI > that is too hard for normal users and the harm that comes from a > mandatory alt attribute requirement combined with the desire of tool > authors to produce markup that passes automated conformance checks. > I don't know how much the KompoZer UI has changed from the Nvu UI in > this area. > > [description of Nvu UI] OK, but then what would be wrong with giving Nvu and other authoring tools a way out. As has been suggested countless times in these debates, why not have either of the following being in a conforming HTML5 document: 1) <img alt='' ’; ‘ alt='<something inserted by the author>'' src='animage' > for images indispensable for the use of the page; or 2) <img alt='' ’; ‘ src='animage' > for decorative images; or 3) <img src='animage' anewattribute='with an enumerated value indicating an relevant to the content of the document but not indispensable for the use of the page ' > Several candidates have been put forward for this new attribute. A @noalt boolean attribute was suggested. Use of the @role attribute with several new HTML5 enumerated keywords[1] was suggested. Any other suggested attribute names and values would be welcome. With other options, there's no reason to leap to the conclusion that HTML5 should undermine accessibility on the web. With this other option, authoring tools could easily default to the "don't include alternate text" option when not within a link and be more insistent on including alternate text when within a link. In the rare cases where alternate text is needed for an image outside a link get to the publishers, editors, content management system creators, etc. who make use of such idioms. Take care, Rob [1]: <http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/EmbeddedContentRoleAndEquivalents?highlight=%28image%29%7C%28alt%29%7C%28role%29 >
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