- From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
- Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:32:25 +0100
- To: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>, "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>
- Cc: "whatwg List" <whatwg@whatwg.org>, "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:16:15 +0100, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote: > On Feb 25, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > >> <label> >> This would preclude any sane way of putting form controls in >> legends, which would be bad. >> This can't be fixed in the spec. > > Is the ability to put form controls in figure captions (let alone more > than one form control) really more important than ability to style them > sanely? Putting a form control in a figure caption seems unlikely to me. What would you recommend for the "am I hot or not" and the like? At first glance, that seems like a reasonable use case to me. ... >> A new element would be a neat solution, but frankly I'm out of words to >> use, and if we keep adding new ways to mark up titles and captions and >> legends and labels, authors aren't going to be able to work out when >> they should use each element... > > It seems to me that the problems with adding a new element are purely > aesthetic, while the problems with reusing 'legend' are practical and > harm deployment of the new element. Agreed. >> I think our only option is to use <legend>, and, while in the migration >> period, have people use markup like: >> >> <figure> >> <legend><span class="legend"> ... </span></legend> >> ... >> </figure> >> >> ...with styles like: >> >> figure > legend, figure > .legend { ... } > > Yuck. Surely writing <legend><span class="legend"> ... </span></legend> > is uglier than writing something like <figcaption> ... </figcaption>. > And the migration period could take more than a decade. Given the > lengths that HTML5 goes to so that it can degrade gracefully, this > sounds like a high price to pay to avoid adding an element. cheers chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera 9.5: http://snapshot.opera.com
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