- From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
- Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:20:10 +0000
- To: "Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com>
- Cc: "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>, www-forms@w3.org
Hi Anne, I don't think we need to load every discussion with statements like this: though it seems that our collegues (sic) in the Forms WG have lost interest... I assume it's obvious that this cuts both ways? Anyway, your point that the TF might not be the best mechanism is certainly worth thinking about. I don't want to comment on that, but I would like to draw attention to the attitude of the XForms Working Group to the issues that the TF is meant to address. The WG recently concluded a pivotal face-to-face where we agreed that the priority for XForms 1.2 should not be new XForms features, but instead a focus on providing authors with abbreviated ways to create XForms. The goal is to create abbreviations that would be closer in their syntax to HTML, and as a consequence would allow authors to gradually enhance their HTML documents by adding XForms features as they are needed. Perhaps more exciting though, is that we also agreed to create a series of smaller modules that authors could use to enhance their documents. Implementers could therefore choose to implement smaller parts of XForms without having to embrace XForms in its entirety. (As it happens, this is already what is happening, since parts of XForms are used in ODF and Yahoo's mobile platform, to mention a couple; we're simply discussing in the working group how to make it easier for language designers and library builders to incorporate XForms patterns.) Together these two developments will provide for the creation of a smooth route from the simplicity of HTML forms to the more powerful XForms. I know that this approach is actually what I flagged up on our TF telecon a while back; but the key development now is that this is at the core of the approach to XForms 1.2, rather than being something that a couple of interested parties will pursue. As a consequence I believe we are not far from being in a situation where we can actually make some meaningful progress in the TF, should people conclude that it could still be a useful umbrella. (Obviously the work would continue at the XForms WG, even without the TF, but coordination remains a useful goal.) Regards, Mark On 15/02/2008, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I saw the Forms TF mentioned during yesterday's telcon and at least one > person was wondering if I could provide some kind of status report so I > thought I'd do that. > > The Forms TF started around July 2007 and has a public website I set up > last year: > > http://www.w3.org/2007/10/forms-tf/ > > I have also created a charter proposal for the Forms TF and no objections > have been raised against it. The charter is located here: > > http://www.w3.org/2007/10/forms-tf/charter-proposal > > I have mentioned that this charter is now our official charter on the > mailing list and solicited input on our deliverables at the end of > November 2007 (as you can tell I have not updated the website yet): > > http://www.w3.org/mid/op.t2kr1qnf64w2qv@annevk-t60.oslo.opera.com > > Up until now that is the last e-mail that has been sent to the Forms TF > list. I'm not sure what conclusions I have to draw from this, though it > seems that our collegues in the Forms WG have lost interest in working on > this. > > I personally think that if nothing has happened by July 2008 we should > dismantle the Forms TF and handle any remaining issues by simply reviewing > and commenting on each others' work. > > If there are any further questions on the Forms TF just let me by e-mail > or IRC and I'll do my best to answer them accurately. > > Kind regards, > > > -- > Anne van Kesteren > <http://annevankesteren.nl/> > <http://www.opera.com/> > > -- Mark Birbeck mark.birbeck@x-port.net | +44 (0) 20 7689 9232 http://www.x-port.net | http://internet-apps.blogspot.com x-port.net Ltd. is registered in England and Wales, number 03730711 The registered office is at: 2nd Floor Titchfield House 69-85 Tabernacle Street London EC2A 4RR
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