- From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:11:37 +0000 (UTC)
- To: Ca Phun Ung <caphun@yelotofu.com>
- Cc: 'HTML WG Public List' <public-html@w3.org>
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Ca Phun Ung wrote: > > OK, then please explain why the XFN and Microformats movement hit center > stage if there is no advantage in marking up people's names? XFN marks up relationships, not just names. > It's not only useful to those who "love semantics" but also websites > that are not Latin based, i.e. Chinese and Japanese. In Chinese names > are traditionally distinguished with a underline to indicate it is in > fact a name, this has been the case for thousands of years, otherwise it > is hard for the reader to distinguish meaning because a person's name is > usually taken from common words, such as "dragon", "peace", "gold", > "clever" etc. Aha, now that is a useful use case! > Sorry, I need to correct myself regarding the above. Punctuations, which > includes underlines, only came into being during the Chinese cultural > revolution around 1919. Before this there were no punctuations in > Chinese literature. So the Chinese got by for thousands of years without > any form of underline, period, comma, brackets etc. Punctuation is a > western influence. And in recent years underlining people's names have > become less and less a norm, though still understood when it happens and > usually often used to zero out ambiguity if the person's name is odd or > uncommon. So the question is, is it worth adding a <name> element for this use case? (Maybe, given that the target audience would be primarily chinese and japanese, we should use a chinese or japanese word for the element name? Or maybe the <u> element should be repurposed for names?) Input from other people familiar with this use case would be very useful. How is this use case handled today? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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