- From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:43:59 -0700
- To: Jens Meiert <jens.meiert@erde3.com>
- Cc: public-html@w3.org
On Sep 6, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Jens Meiert wrote: > > (Apologies for recent WG discussion and collaboration absence; I > moved.) > > I need to bring up the "aside" [1], "header" [2], and "footer" [3] > elements again, no matter that they've been discussed a few times > yet. I'm still not convinced that their names are very appropriate > as they seem to be too "presentational" and almost meaningless. I disagree that they are presentational. Headers, footers and asides are identifiable parts of web documents and indeed non-web documents just as much as paragraphs and sections are. Furthermore, it is hard to see how they are any more presentational than <tfoot>, <thead>, <h1> or <th>. Regards, Maciej > I'm very interested in how you judge that and whether more WG > members see those as an issue, and beside asking for your pick, I > may illustrate the problem by at the same time proposing alternate > names and slightly different/complementary semantics like: > > * "auxiliary"/"aux" or "supplement" instead of "aside"; quite more > generic and probably the most debatable suggestions here, but also > less related to the element's presentation. > > * "identity" instead of "header"; I know that more people gripe when > it comes to "header" and "footer" (yet with IDs and classes of the > same names which seems reasonable to me), and observing people who > look for alternatives and also doing a "heuristic analysis" of > current use, "identity" seems to be a descriptive and in many cases > sufficient alternative for "header". > > * "about" instead of "footer"; again, it's just a hasty suggestion, > but the situation is similar to "header", and "about" already > appears to be an improvement, too. > > > Regards, > Jens. > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#aside > [2] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#header > [3] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#footer > > -- > Jens Meiert > http://meiert.com/en/ > >
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