- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:39:51 +0100
- To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, "Dr. Olaf Hoffmann" <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>
- Cc: public-html@w3.org
aloha, ian! 1) a stanza isn't a paragraph, nor is a verse -- if they were, they'd be called paragraphs -- line breaks carry no semantic meaning -- why not a containing element that indicates a line of poetry, much as <LI> and </LI> indicate the beginning and end of a list item? 2) PRE does not express any meaningful semantics, nor does it lend structure -- other than the visual illusion of structure -- to the text contained in a PRE container... 3) i'm VERY uneasy with your the "classical poem" example you cited, as it is used to illustrate the contentious claim that quote Examples where the image is purely decorative despite being relevant would include things like a photo of the Black Rock City landscape in a blog post about an event at Burning Man, or an image of a painting inspired by a poem, on a page reciting that poem. The following snippet shows an example of the latter case (only the first verse is included in this snippet): unquote why should those processing the poem non-visually be bereft of a description of the accompanying illustration? obviously, the illustration captures an artist's conception of the "lady of shalott", which could aid an individual's understanding of the poem, and which could enhance the readers understanding of the cross-fertilization of poetry and art in a particular era and a particular style... i fail to comprehend why an illustration such as this should be null alt texted and why it should validate without a descriptor, in particular, a long description of the painting -- not only those who cannot see may need a description of the painting, but also those with color blindness and those with an extremely restricted viewport who may need guidance through the illustration... if the illustration isn't worthy of description, then it isn't worthy of being included in the first place -- one cannot, as the draft currently does, classify this image as quote A purely decorative image that doesn't add any information but is still specific to the surrounding content unquote, as the example you cited is NOT a purely decorative image, but an interpretation of the poem it is being used to illustrate -- therefore, it DEMANDS both a terse and a long description... gregory. ------------------------------------------------------------- SELF-EVIDENT, adj. Evident to one's self and to nobody else. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary ------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita: oedipus@hicom.net Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/ Oedipus' Online Complex: http://my.opera.com/oedipus -------------------------------------------------------------
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