- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:40:30 -0600
- To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Cc: "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 09:46 +0000, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Dan Connolly wrote:
> >
> > Before we get to the business of addressing objections to publishing, we
> > have to establish a critical mass of support for publishing.
>
> It would seem we have that -- 43 people have indicated explicitly that
> they agree that we should publish a draft, in a vote with 53 ballots cast.
> That's over 80% explicitly positive.
I don't think those 43 people represent a critical mass of the
relevant constituency; namely: the W3C member organizations that take
on patent licensing obligations as of 1st WD.
Note:
[[
The following W3C Members ... have not answered the questionnaire:
1. AOL LLC: Kevin Lawver <kevin.lawver@corp.aol.com>, Geoff Bishop
<Geoffrey.Bishop@corp.aol.com>
2. IBM Corporation: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>,
Aaron Leventhal <aleventh@us.ibm.com>, Sam Ruby
<rubys@us.ibm.com>
3. France Telecom: Stéphane Deschamps
<stephane.deschamps@orange-ftgroup.com>
4. Nokia Corporation: Mikko Honkala <mikko.honkala@nokia.com>
5. Boeing Company: Scott Vesey <scott.r.vesey@boeing.com>
6. Openwave Systems Inc.: Mark Cataldo <mark.cataldo@openwave.com>,
Sudheer Gullapalli <sudheer.gullapalli@openwave.com>
7. ACCESS Co., Ltd.: Marcin Hanclik
<marcin.hanclik@access-company.com>
8. Library of Congress: Justin Thorp <juth@loc.gov>
9. Cisco Systems: Michael Whitley <miwhitle@cisco.com>
10. BEA Systems, Inc.: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
11. Oxford Brookes University: Bob Hopgood <bhopgood@brookes.ac.uk>
12. Stanford University: Monika Trebo <mtrebo@stanford.edu>
13. PicoForms: David Landwehr <david.landwehr@picoforms.com>,
Kenneth Sklander <kenneth@sklander.net>
14. University of Innsbruck: Alexander Graf <alexander.graf@deri.at>
15. Queensland University of Technology: Michael Lawley
<m.lawley@qut.edu.au>
16. mTLD Top Level Domain Limited: Stephen Stewart
<sstewart@mtld.mobi>
17. Dreamlab Technologies AG: Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer
<sebastian@dreamlab.net>
18. Betfair Limited: Martyn Haigh <Martyn.Haigh@betfair.com>
]]
-- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/wd11spec/results
Less than a dozen W3C member organizations actually participated
in the formal survey. Thank you for...
yes responses:
1. Google, Inc.
2. Opera Software
3. Mozilla Foundation
4. Mitsue-Links Co., Ltd.
5. Apple, Inc.
6. Disruptive Innovations
7. International Webmasters Association / HTML Writers Guild
no response:
1. Microsoft Corp.
> (You yourself wrote that we had
> "considerable support for publication" [1] in response to an earlier
> survey with fewer votes asking for HTML5 to be published [2].)
Yes. As I say, that was a mistake, for which I apologize.
[...]
> > That's where Chris and I made the mistake. When I put the question on 2
> > November, I assumed that members such as Nokia and IBM and Microsoft
> > were aware of the patent policy implications of publishing current HTML
> > 5 specs under our current charter, and Chris assumed that Microsoft's
> > patent review included the immediate mode graphics stuff.
>
> Certainly if a company needs more than the standard 3 months to review the
> spec after FPWD publication, we shouldn't prevent them from leaving the
> group and taking the time to complete this review. However, I do not
> understand how this would be a reason for blocking FPWD publication --
> indeed, as far as I can tell from my reading of the patent policy, it
> would be a reason to expedite it.
Well, we're looking at the same evidence but we come to different
conclusions. I think it's worth a small delay in publishing the draft
to avoid prompting member organizations to resign.
I intend to consult with the Hypertext CG and W3C management about
how much of a delay is advisable/acceptable. I suppose I'll use
tracker to keep me accountable...
ACTION-28 Consult with the Hypertext CG and W3C management about how
much time W3C member organizations should be allowed to study the patent
implications of an HTML 5 spec 1st WD
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/28
--
Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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