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Re: Feedback on the ping="" attribute (ISSUE-1)

From: Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:03:39 -0500
Message-ID: <e9dffd640711052203w48081969m6b66fe3d589aa74c@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: "Julian Reschke" <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, "HTML WG List" <public-html@w3.org>

On 11/5/07, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, Mark Baker wrote:
> > You appear to be confusing two different things, Ian.  When we say that
> > an HTTP message is "safe", we're using the word to refer to the meaning
> > of the message.
> In that case I don't understand what we are discussing. Could you define
> the terms in more detail?

Are there any specific terms you had in mind?  I think we all
understand what "safe" means.  The problem is, IMO, that we're using
it to refer to different things.

I believe that what is relevant to the issue of the method used by the
ping feature is the meaning of the messages rather than what a server
may or may not do with those messages.  A Web browser works on behalf
of the user and so should ensure that the messages it sends reflects
the user's intent.  When a user clicks a link, their intent is for
(safe) dereferencing to occur.  If an unsafe message is sent in
response to that click, then the user agent is misrepresenting the

Mark Baker.  Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.         http://www.markbaker.ca
Coactus; Web-inspired integration strategies  http://www.coactus.com
Received on Tuesday, 6 November 2007 06:03:50 UTC

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