- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:33:07 -0400
- To: Maurice Carey <maurice@thymeonline.com>, HTML Working Group <public-html@w3.org>
- Cc: wai-xtech@w3.org
aloha! the first thing a screen-reader must do when it discerns the presence of a longdesc target is: ALERT THE USER THAT IT IS THERE. the second thing a screen-reader must do when it discerns the presence of a longdesc target is to allow the user to activate that target, if that is the user's wish, so as to expose the contents of the longdesc document; ever since it began to support longdesc JAWS for Windows 1) alerts you to the presence of a long description, and prompts the user (in basic mode) to hit ENTER, and the contents of the longdesc document associated with the image is displayed in a pop-up window (not the best solution when the default for a lot of programs these days is block all popups) the last thing that needs to be done is to provide a mechanism to return to the document in which the described image is embedded... obviously, step 1 is the responsibility of the assisstive technology, but the under-the-hood mechanics of exposing descriptive content SHOULD be the user agent's responsibility; what is needed is a normative list of recommended slash expected actions that allow multi-modal interaction with the long description. as i have indicated, treating LONGDESC as HREF isn't the only means of exposing the content of the long description page; the contents -- or the main portion thereof -- could be rendered inline instead of the image or in an IFrame (which has its own accessibility issues) or any other number of means of exposure. the key is that the UA should support LONGDESC natively, and allow the user a set of choices about exposing LONGDESC: * expose in new browser instance * expose in new browser tab * expose inline (insert content as object) * expose inline through the use of IFrame * expose the contents of the longdesc document in a side-bar, aligned with the image it describes and many many others... if a user knows what to do when encountering a long description, then it matters not what assisstive technology she is using, for there is an expected action in the case of browser x for exposing LONGDESC gregory. ----------------------------------------------------------------- PEDESTRIAN, n. The variable (and audible) part of the roadway for an automobile. -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita: oedipus@hicom.net and webmaster@ubats.org UBATS: United Blind Advocates for Talking Signs: http://ubats.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Maurice Carey <maurice@thymeonline.com> To: HTML Working Group <public-html@w3.org> Sent: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:45:46 -0400 Subject: Re: fear of "invisible metadata" [was Re: retention of summary attribute for TABLE element] > On 6/21/07 5:42 PM, "Joshue O Connor" <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie> wrote: > > > > > Maurice Carey wrote: > >> Does anyone know, when a screen reader encounters a longdesc, does it > >> navigate to the long description or does it pull it up behind the scenes and > >> read it out loud in context? > > > > No, it doesn't do either. > > > > Josh > > > > > > > So what does it do? Or what would the user do to make use of its > existence? > -- > :: thyme online ltd > :: po box cb13650 nassau the bahamas > :: website: http://www.thymeonline.com/ > :: tel: 242 327-1864 fax: 242 377 1038 ------- End of Original Message -------
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