- From: Ben 'Cerbera' Millard <cerbera@projectcerbera.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 08:31:03 +0100
- To: "Henri Sivonen" <hsivonen@iki.fi>
- Cc: "HTMLWG" <public-html@w3.org>
On June 03, 2007, at, 1:53 PM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > What bothers me about this thread is that so far the cases to test lack the most obvious case: A table where the table headers are marked up as <th> with no scope='' or headers='' anywhere. In my experience, table headers are more likely to be done as something like <td align><b> than <th>. Using meaningless elements instead of the "simple" and "obvious" ones is reportedly common. (See the "<h1> instead of <font>" comment in [1] and the "Web Authoring Statistics: Elements and attributes" [2].) A couple of weeks ago I started collecting data tables which I'd seen described as complex or just technically noteworthy [3]. This is ongoing; there are more tables I could add [4][5][6][7]. For each example I made some variants, including the original recoded to use the minimum of features, another to use scope="", another to use scope="" & abbr="" where logical, etc. I haven't done headers=""/id="" variants but I can do if this would be helpful. A few variants are deliberately non-conformant, like proposing multiple <thead> in tables where column headers are repeated identically every few rows [8]. But accidental mistakes are also likely since these are done in my spare time (I make websites professionally). Error reports are welcome. I can add a "notes.html" file to each set if this will be helpful. It would explain the source, any non-conformant proposals, whether the souce site had many other tables of a similar type and so on. [1] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/1036.html> [2] <http://code.google.com/webstats/2005-12/elements.html> [3] <http://sitesurgeon.co.uk/!dev/tables/> [4] <http://www.accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=52530#52530> [5] <http://www.accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=52726#52726> [6] <http://www.accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=52779#52779> [7] <http://www.accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=52909#52909> [8] <http://sitesurgeon.co.uk/!dev/tables/clark2006/13-mac/scope-thead.html> P.S. This is my first message on this list. Hello everyone!
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