- From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:30:33 +0900
- To: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Le 18 juil. 2007 à 19:09, Ben Boyle a écrit :
> I think the burden of proof should be flipped here. If HTML5 changes
> the semantics of an element, any element, that had better be
> justified.
Indeed, or more exactly, refining the meaning of an element have to
be done in a very careful way.
For example, because we were talking about small element. Something
that would make a bit more sense to me would be
What type of information I could see HTML 5.01
================================
Definition: The small element renders the text in a smaller font
than its environment.
Browsers: They should support it by rendering with a font smaller
than the …
Authoring tools: They should not support this presentational
elements. If the use of small is done in the intent of carrying
meaningful semantics, the author should use an appropriate class name
or a dedicated element for it.
Example:
Old:
<p>
<small>
<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/">Creative
Commons 2.0</a>
</small>
</p>
Preferred:
<html profile="@@">
…
<p class="copyright">
<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/"
rel="license">cc by 2.0</a>
</p>
…
See http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-license
Trivia: "small" elements has been used to represent sometimes
"small print" (part of a document often describing legal
restrictions, such as copyrights or other disadvantages), or other
side comments.
================================
Issue:
Here there is a need of statistics. From my [quick checking][1] on
some high traffic japanese websites, it has been used only 1 on 8 on
the home page. (which is not a serious survey, just to give an idea.)
- How many small elements are really used for "small print" or
"side comments"?
- What is the most common way of declaring copyright information?
About extracting semantics
* Semantic Data Extractor
http://www.w3.org/2003/12/semantic-extractor
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-qa-dev/2007Jul/0008
* LogValidator (has been also conceived for this kind of things)
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/LogValidator/
http://www.w3.org/QA/2003/03/web-kit#decide
* Yahoo Search
http://search.yahoo.com/cc
* Google Search
http://www.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=29508
[1]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Jul/0868
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