- From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
- Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:55:44 -0700
- To: Michael(tm) Smith <mike@w3.org>
- Cc: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
On Jul 3, 2007, at 4:19 AM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, 2007-07-03 03:30 -0700: > >> It also seems that accesskey would not work very well on mobile >> devices, >> which often have limited keyboards. And screen real estate is too >> precious >> to add a menu just for this relatively obscure feature. > > Access-key markup on mobile sites is already in wide use for > mobile-specific sites in Japan at least. It works quite well and > users depend on it. The way that it's handled is that if you mark > up an element with an access key, a 0-9 numbered button or star or > hash button is rendered inline next to the displayed content of > element. By convention that has grown up around it, the elements > with access keys are generally grouped at the bottom of each page, > and the mappings/bindings are consistent across all pages at the > site. For example, for a given site, 0 always takes you up/home to > the home page for the site, while 4 (or maybe star) is > back/previous and 6 (or maybe hash) takes you forward/next. > > The first time you visit a particular site, you do have to scroll > to the bottom to see what the access keys are for the page/site. > But you usually only need to do that once, to find out what they > are, then you remember it and don't have to look again (because, > like I said, they mappings/bindings are consistent across the site). > > So we don't need to come up with any brilliant new ideas about how > to handling accesskey in the mobile-browsing context. That's > already been done. 1) See my message to Chaals about phones where typing 0-9 at an arbitrary time is not all that easy. 2) Something that is used only on mobile-specific sites will not help us design a feature for mobile devices that can browse the real web, not just the "mobile web". Are any of these sites even using real HTML? My impression is that Japanese mobile-specific sites are coded using a variety of mutually incompatible mobile-specific languages, like cHTML, XHTML Basic, XHTML-MP, etc. I'd like to hear about a design that works for browsing the real web using devices like the Nokia e61, the iPhone, and other phones with close to full-strength browsers such as Opera Mobile. Regards, Maciej
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