- From: j.j. <moz@jeka.info>
- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:02:50 +0100
- To: Thomas Broyer <t.broyer@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-html@w3.org
Hello again, I think a newbie can understand that there are two different technically principles of preformatted text. 1. The <pre> principle - preserves whitespace - allows markup as usual 2. The <xmp> principle - peserves whitesace - displays any HTML-like markup as text - doesn't allow "</xmp" inside In general, we (the HTML WG) should look beyond the edge of our dogfood plate. <xmp> fits for much more than HTML content. j.j. Thomas Broyer <t.broyer@gmail.com>: hodd gsachd: > > 2007/12/10, j.j.: >> Thomas Broyer hodd gsachd: >> >> > That being said, I'm really not convinced that XMP is needed at all: >> > you only have to do a search/replace for & to & (you're already >> > doing it anyway) and < to < (other characters don't need any >> > special treatment). >> >> It's a great benefit ecpecially (but not only) for inexperienced >> authors. > > That's where our opinions diverge. > > Newbie: how do I show some HTML code in an HTML page? If I just > copy/paste my code, it's interpreted by the browser. I.e. I don't want > bold text, I want the string <strong> to appear. > > You: enclose your HTML code in <xmp> and </xmp> tags > > Me: search/replace all your < into <. > Now, you should also enclose the whole thing inside <code>, and if you > want your spaces and line breaks to be preserved, use a <pre> (you > might already know both). > >> And author's requirements have currently higher priority for >> us than theoretical purity. >> <http://www.w3.org/TR/html-design-principles/#priority-of-constituencies> > > It's not a matter of theoretical purity: > > Newbie: cool! now how can I make some parts bold, or blue? It's for a > step-by-step tutorial and I want to put in relief the changes from one > example to the other. > > You: er, you can't, at least with <xmp>... > > Me: just use markup within your <pre><code>. (actually, I doubt the > newbie would have even asked, he probably would have found the > solution himself; with xmp, he would have been disappointed surely) > > -- > Thomas Broyer > >
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