- From: Edward O'Connor <eoconnor@apple.com>
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:41:15 -0700
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Paul Cotton wrote: > The HTML Working Group will have its usual weekly teleconference on > 2012-03-29 for up to 60 minutes from 16:00Z to 17:00Z. The minutes are available in HTML here: http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-html-wg-minutes.html or in plain text below. [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ HTML WG weekly telcon 29 Mar 2012 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0031.html Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]action items due by Thursday, March 29 2. [5]New Issues This Week: 3. [6]Items Closed Last Week 4. [7]Items Closing This Week 5. [8]Items Closing Next Week 6. [9]New Calls this week 7. [10]New Surveys this week 8. [11]Decisions this week 9. [12]Other Business 10. [13]chair and scribe for next week 11. [14]Adjournment * [15]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ action items due by Thursday, March 29 paulc: there are none New Issues This Week: paulc: there are none ... one new tracker request [16]http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywo rds=TrackerRequest [16] http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest Items Closed Last Week ISSUE-193? <trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- open <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193 [17] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21 ISSUE-194? <trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194 [18] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21 ISSUE-195? <trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- open <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195 [19] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21 ISSUE-196? <trackbot> ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- open <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196 [20] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21 ISSUE-197? <trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- open <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197 [21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21 ISSUE-199? <trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- open <trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199 [22] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21 ISSUE-201? <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201 [23] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21 ISSUE-190? <trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190 [24] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190 paulc: Call for Consensus closed Mar 23 ... severl 3/21 items were dealt with last week Items Closing This Week ISSUE-80? <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open <trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80 [25] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80 paulc: Call for Consensus closed Mar 28 ISSUE-134? <trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively -- open <trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134 [26] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134 paulc: Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28 ISSUE-191? <trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open <trackbot> [27]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191 [27] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191 paulc: Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28 ISSUE-200? <trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- open <trackbot> [28]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200 [28] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 28 ISSUE-193? <trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- open <trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193 [29] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193 ISSUE-196? <trackbot> ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- open <trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196 [30] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196 ISSUE-197? <trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- open <trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197 [31] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197 paulc: those three issues have a Call for Consensus which closes Mar 29 (today) ... chairs are meeting after this call today, we will try to move issues along Items Closing Next Week ISSUE-203? <trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- open <trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203 [32] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203 paulc: Revise Change Proposals closes Apr 2 ISSUE-198? <trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- open <trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198 [33] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closes Apr 3 ISSUE-194? <trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open <trackbot> [34]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194 [34] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194 paulc: Call for Counter Proposals extension closes Apr 5 New Calls this week paulc: there are none New Surveys this week paulc: there are none ... chairs expect to issue a straw poll on ISSUE-158 Decisions this week ISSUE-190? <trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open <trackbot> [35]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190 [35] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190 paulc: Closed by Amicable Consensus Other Business paulc: CfC to publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs [36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/024 7.html [36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html Scheduled to be published today MikeSmith: working on getting everything published ... about half of the documents are staged, working on the other half <MikeSmith> Zakim: [37]http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-html5-20120329/ [37] http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-html5-20120329/ MikeSmith: waiting on the webmaster to create symlinks after checking for broken links etc. ... we plan to have them all done by EOD (Eastern Time) paulc: your efforts are well appreciated ... we'll point the wg to the news item on the w3c home page when publication happens ... Revert request r7023 ... that was done [38]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/html5/2dcontext/Overvie w.html?rev=1.133;content-type=text%2Fhtml [38] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/html5/2dcontext/Overview.html?rev=1.133;content-type=text%2Fhtml paulc: this was blocking publication ... Extension request for issue 200 - [39]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/064 1.html ... extension request granted [39] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0641.html <paulc> [40]http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html [40] http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html paulc: two extension requests for issue 194 one: [41]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/063 3.html [41] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0633.html two: [42]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/065 3.html [42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0653.html paulc: in some cases people are writing multiple CPs and we should give them time away from their day jobs to do so ... Review of issue change proposals ISSUE-184? <trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open <trackbot> [43]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184 [43] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184 chair feedback: [44]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/073 7.html [44] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0737.html ISSUE-185? <trackbot> ISSUE-185 -- Drop the pubdate attribute -- open <trackbot> [45]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185 [45] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185 [46]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/073 8.html [46] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0738.html ISSUE-189? <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open <trackbot> [47]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189 [47] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189 [48]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/073 9.html [48] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0739.html ISSUE-204? <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open <trackbot> [49]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204 [49] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204 early chair feedback on 204: [50]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/076 6.html [50] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0766.html paulc: since we already had 2 CPs, we provided early feedback ... feedback was taken up by the a11y TF on their call today ... reqested revisions to the counter proposal ... Upcoming straw poll for objections for ISSUE-158 ISSUE-158? <trackbot> ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue -- open <trackbot> [51]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158 [51] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158 paulc: chairs sent out notification to CP authors ... minor changes made to one of the CPs ... we'll be issuing a straw poll next week ... should go out on monday ... polls last for one week ... chairs are not counting votes; looking for arguments against the positions taken ... no need to +1 after an argument has been put forward ... any other business? tantek_: question about CP iteration process ... CP authors are given a chance to iterate based on chair feedback ... are there any deadlines or is it based on when the chairs decide to go to a poll? paulc: there isn't a fixed set of rules; chairs are flexible <paulc> ISSUE-204 CP review: [52]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/076 6.html [52] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0766.html paulc: our feedback here was fairly strong <paulc> "Unless this flaw is corrected by April 18th, the chairs will not accept the ARIA_CORTHCWSR proposal, and will instead proceed to a call for consensus on the AllowAriaReferHidden proposal." paulc: gave fixed date for a change which would cause us to accept the CP ... in some cases we provide editorial feedback, or make suggestions to strengthen the case made ... in other cases we're giving dates for going to survey ... we're trying to be as explicit as possible <rubys> We gave dates for ISSUE-134, ISSUE-191, and ISSUE-203. We have yet to give dates on ISSUE-183, ISSUE-184, ISSUE-185, ISSUE-189. paulc: if we give a deadline and it's unreasonable due to your other work or other relevant factors, you should respond right away tantek_: followup question ... chairs said (204 feedback) "this statement must be backed up with evidence" ... my cp for drop-pubdate asserts that there is sufficient hatom adoption ... would referring to, say, default wordpress templates, wordpress.com, be sufficient? paulc: that's exactly the kind of evidence we're looking for ... if someone says "this feature isn't implemented in any browsers" and someone else says "this is implemented in two browsers", need evidence to back up claims ... if the counter proposal provides contrary evidence, you may want to raise the bar of your own data tantek_: i'm still trying to acheive wider consensus, it's not clear if i'll be able to acheive this paulc: the fewer things we need to take to straw polls, the better glenn: what is the status on the content encryption task force? paulc: it's in my work queue ... proposed plan to my co-chairs and wg ... now that the heartbeat drafts are being published, this is back at the top of my queue ... you'll probably see an announcement next week chair and scribe for next week <Zakim> glenn, you wanted to discuss encrypted media tf paulc: rubys will chair next week ... no volunteers to scribe Adjournment [End of minutes]
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