Re: Formal objection to Encrypted Media Extensions progressing to Proposed Recommendation without greater user protection

It appears to me (hope I'm not missing the point here) that the fact that
this matter is being discussed by you guys, and is not by any means
clear-cut, and you guys are smart, then it would seem a near or actual
certainty that those who wish to apply the DMCA in a far from caring way
will find opportunity to do so. This is one of the issues with this whole
project that greatly concerns me.

Joe

On 5 August 2016 at 17:11, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:

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> > On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:49 , Xabier Rodríguez Calvar <calvaris@igalia.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >       Hi,
> >
> > O Xov, 04-08-2016 ás 11:08 -0700, David Singer escribiu:
> >>
> >> True, having watched people argue that gorillas are (or are not)
> >> natural persons, nothing surprises.
> >
> > I think this comment is out of place. I don't have the intention to
> > bikeshed here but we should refrain such comparisons with other
> > people's believes. You don't know who's subscribed to this list and who
> > you could be offending.
>
> I’m sorry if I caused offense, because none was intended.
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> My point is that if we claim in the spec. that neither the implementations
> of EME nor the underlying DRMs are technical protection measures, I think
> that greatly weakens the argument about EME: those who believe that a DRM
> is a technical protection measure will reject the statement as false, and
> at best this calls into question whether EME is, in fact, ‘part of’ a TPM.
> I would be concerned that such a statement would, in fact, be worse than
> saying nothing. If people believe it’s wrong about the underlying DRM, then
> maybe it’s also wrong about EME.
>
> Let’s try another analogy: “neither the sky nor the glass are blue”. I
> don’t agree with the statement about the sky, and I observe that there are
> grasses called ‘bluegrass’ so maybe the entire statement is false, not just
> false in part. At this point, asking someone “what color is grass” they
> might reply “well, I don’t know, sometimes it might be blue” when
> previously one would have probably got the reply “um, grass is green”.
>
> David Singer
> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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