- From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 22:55:03 +0000
- To: "public-html-media@w3.org" <public-html-media@w3.org>
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NOTE: This meeting will use the Webex phone facility!!! https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Media_Task_Force/Call<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fwiki%2fHTML%2fMedia_Task_Force%2fCall&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=znPQBOJ6bGJzDo%2fyIHtcnBmqWpN%2bPV7YoWgIr5dJy58%3d> The HTML WG media teleconference meeting will occur on 2015-09-14 for up to 60 minutes from 15:00Z to 16:00Z. http://timeanddate.com/s/2vuf Tokyo midnight, Amsterdam/Oslo 17:00, London/Dublin 16:00, New Jersey/York 11:00, Kansas City 10:00, Seattle/San Francisco 08:00. Chair of the meeting: Paul Cotton Scribe: TBD (See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.) == Agenda == 1. Roll call, introductions and selection of scribe 2. Previous meeting minutes Aug 25: http://www.w3.org/2015/08/25-html-media-minutes.html Aug 11: http://www.w3.org/2015/08/11-html-media-minutes.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2f2015%2f08%2f11-html-media-minutes.html&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7c05048e6106cf4d43656308d2ace3a817%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ADQHxlsGfeZO7Ghdh8XWJ5DZPIXYci%2f5HDehqGZG4ic%3d> 3. MSE test suite status a) Jun 29 test results including Safari results http://w3c.github.io/test-results/media-source/all.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fw3c.github.io%2ftest-results%2fmedia-source%2fall.html&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=CgtlBWoy%2b%2f30U%2bPnKoV9fA0ZJKIBIS%2fhFK595PZX5dU%3d> b) Many of the *Track interface pieces are yet to be implemented https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Jul/0015.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2flists.w3.org%2fArchives%2fPublic%2fpublic-html-media%2f2015Jul%2f0015.html&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=e09yyeLofr89hMxInwTcF0zNih%2bKw040YC8hUbrgNKk%3d> Update from Matt: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Aug/0007.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2flists.w3.org%2fArchives%2fPublic%2fpublic-html-media%2f2015Aug%2f0007.html&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7c05048e6106cf4d43656308d2ace3a817%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=cY%2f2QCZd%2f5zrkztvyAbYE255i7o6MhD44XeKLSHVDZs%3d> 4. Recent MSE bugs a) ISSUE-7 - ISO BMFF Byte Stream format should support layered (scalable) encodings https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues/7 b) MSE: Ad-insertion and seeking https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Aug/0032.html Responses since last meeting: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Aug/0034.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Aug/0037.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Aug/0040.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Aug/0049.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Sep/0010.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Sep/0011.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Sep/0012.html c) Bug 29008 - [MSE] Media Segment Header is not defined https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29008<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d29008&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KjQ%2bSSVERiHBQ6layVtDQqtWV%2f58zjefpzqfFuY6A1A%3d> Status: No response since last meeting. 5. Range removal bugs discussed on Jun 30 and Jul 14: Status from Aug 25: Jerry will prepare a PR for these four "bugs" and ensure that it is reviewed by at least Matt and others that have commented on the "bugs". a) Bug 27980 - [MSE] Ambiguous behaviour when running sourcebuffer.abort() https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27980<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d27980&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=b%2fnFYOElTe7TutvR8HigKiMXxut7AiTQQP9JbQPvYRc%3d> b) Bug 27982 - Clarify asynchronicity in duration change algorithm when reducing duration https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27982<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d27982&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=JerUMjRKzfuUjaLz%2b0MAZqIjAqw84rdUVi9ZUOCean8%3d> c) Bug 28877 - [MSE] Ambiguous behaviour when running the range removal algorithm https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28877<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d28877&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=EOJKZmUgPvgBwdFDc%2brKKqv9ScUZA7%2bHKW5laojHvCY%3d> d) ISSUE-5 - Seekable differs from non-MSE behavior https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues/5<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fw3c%2fmedia-source%2fissues%2f5&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3jmlC4DfuXP5yO0Yg2ALpu%2bHpnzu2VpnuFTzVeEI5us%3d> 6. MSE bugs a) Bug 28822 - [MSE] Spec is ambiguous as to event behavior of an explicit MediaSource duration of +Infinity https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28822<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d28822&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=x9LCh7%2bVCUSMpo%2b22gPTFflUBWpjBG7VyOCA%2fdDYsTE%3d> Status from Jun 30: Matt will respond to this bug, resolve it WONTFIX since Infinity is a known value (it means unbounded). The only unknow value is NaN which is the initial value. b) Bug 28857 - [MSE] Support attachment (and inspection) of MediaSource to HTMLMediaElement via HTMLMediaElement.srcObject https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28857<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d28857&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=5IPDqBfP7LKozQnBL%2b73kqX3AvUthZC1cf2IzW8JJn4%3d> Status from Jun 30: Matt will update as RESOLVED LATER and we can in the future collect together additional features for a new version of MSE 7. Other MSE Bugs a) Bug 28710 - [MSE] Ambiguous behavior with Coded Frame Processing algorithm https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28710<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d28710&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lZWIoK5HorVE5GDzsUxsbncr5W7bFUPNhyULBwspX6k%3d> Status from Jun 2 meeting: This bug is about TrackBuffer and may be a duplicate. b) Bug 28727 - [MSE] Per spec, no frame will be removed when changing mediasource duration https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28727<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d28727&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=MBhjZuL4%2b6w1wwMUXQmuscDwRwzeHfAdfKE%2bZSoOQ7U%3d> Status from Jun 2 meeting: Matt stated 'This one is interesting and is related to my work on Chromium. Related to Coded Frame Removal." c) [Bug 28557] New: Coded frame removal algorithm may introduce discontinuity at end of current coded frame group https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28557<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d28557&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZNVNxqFNi6rUUpA9Qq0XzpXc0c7zFkEo2Jo7jwWuuo4%3d> Possibly related to: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27242<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d27242&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=I2dWfvONksIQr8J7fQ%2fwtVfNYdIu10ifPptzTrk%2bscU%3d> Status from May 5: Awaiting Matt's pull request proposal. d) [Bug 28573] New: suspending and notifying resumption of a download for a media element fetching from a MediaSource https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28573<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d28573&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=0SjZ5vEQiorbGaDgASXzb%2bzTRrf8DrS1OJD0VDu39a4%3d> Status from May 5: Awaiting Matt's proposed response. e) Bug 27239 - Update SourceBuffer.appendStream() and related algorithms to use ReadableByteStream https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27239#c8<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fBugs%2fPublic%2fshow_bug.cgi%3fid%3d27239%23c8&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=BmFx5I7MUHZ0rH08U1Uie2xnIA7rF9hIaARxRbo0SpI%3d> Status from May 12: Awaiting Matt's review. 8. MSE status and bugs a) Media Source Extensions editor's draft https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/default/media-source/media-source.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fdvcs.w3.org%2fhg%2fhtml-media%2fraw-file%2fdefault%2fmedia-source%2fmedia-source.html&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=GAUU5dBXfARzhVTMYJ%2b83S9GkQLFLk4UxZHBaTZ0OrM%3d> Last updated on Jul 14. b) Media Source Extensions bugs: http://tinyurl.com/kfeptqy<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2ftinyurl.com%2fkfeptqy&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=7q1EBcX9evQqPgJ%2f9u2VqpDSKmeeZ8c4JronUu7Z4Rw%3d> Statius as of Sep 14: 17 bugs Status as of Aug 24: 17 bugs 9. Next meeting 10. Any other business 11. Chair and Scribe for next meeting 12. Adjournment == Dial-in and IRC Details == Media Task Force Call: https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Media_Task_Force/Call<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.w3.org%2fwiki%2fHTML%2fMedia_Task_Force%2fCall&data=01%7c01%7cPaul.Cotton%40microsoft.com%7ca7cae1ae996148b7f94308d2a1b93d7c%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=znPQBOJ6bGJzDo%2fyIHtcnBmqWpN%2bPV7YoWgIr5dJy58%3d> Supplementary IRC chat (logged): #html-media on irc.w3.org port 6665 or port 80 Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329 Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
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