- From: Fred Andrews <fredandw@live.com>
- Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:48:56 +0000
- To: David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com>, Paul Cotton <paul.cotton@microsoft.com>
- CC: "public-html-media@w3.org" <public-html-media@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <BLU156-W178023B5856E55757510A7AAD00@phx.gbl>
Point of order. The W3C has directed discussion of the EME to
the Restricted Media Community group and it is not clear that
the HTML WG has any standing to formally address this specification.
http://www.w3.org/QA/2013/03/drm_and_the_open_web.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Mar/0018.html
If you wish to explore and develop your proposed solution then
you are welcome to do so in a different venue, but please do not
attempt to pass off such activities as sanctioned by the W3C or
as having any baring on the open web platform.
cheers
Fred
From: ddorwin@google.com
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 17:46:30 -0700
To: Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com
CC: public-html-media@w3.org; adrianba@microsoft.com; watsonm@netflix.com
Subject: Re: {agenda} HTML WG media telecon 2013-03-26 - EME bugs discussion
Here are the bugs for discussion tomorrow. The last three relate to errors, which we can discuss generally.
To help select these bugs, I quickly categorized the open bugs. I've attached a file that contains this rough categorization in a new column.
19009 HTML WG Encrypted Media Extensions adrianba@microsoft.com NEW --- A MediaKeys should belong to a single HTMLMediaElement.
20622 HTML WG Encrypted Media Extensions adrianba@microsoft.com NEW --- SessionID may be assigned asynchronously in MediaKeys.createSession
21155 HTML WG Encrypted Media Extensions adrianba@microsoft.com NEW --- EME should be explicit about its relationship with Web Platform APIs that allow video frames and audio samples to be extracted from an HTMLMediaElement
21203 HTML WG Encrypted Media Extensions adrianba@microsoft.com NEW --- EME leaks information cross-origin
16617 HTML WG Encrypted Media Extensions adrianba@microsoft.com ASSIGNED --- Consider more granular error reporting
16737 HTML WG Encrypted Media Extensions adrianba@microsoft.com ASSIGNED --- Should MEDIA_KEYERR_CLIENT be two separate errors?
16857 HTML WG Encrypted Media Extensions adrianba@microsoft.com ASSIGNED --- MEDIA_ERR_ENCRYPTED should exclude decrypt failure
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:
The HTML WG media teleconference meeting will occur on 2013-03-26 for up to 60 minutes from 15:00Z to 16:00Z.
http://timeanddate.com/s/2cfc
Tokyo midnight, Amsterdam/Oslo 16:00, London/Dublin 15:00, New Jersey/York 11:00, Kansas City 10:00, Seattle/San Francisco 08:00.
NOTE: North America is now on Daylight Savings Time.
Chair of the meeting: Paul Cotton
Scribe: TBD
(See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.)
== Agenda ==
1. Roll call, introductions and selection of scribe
2. Previous meeting minutes
http://www.w3.org/2013/03/12-html-media-minutes.html
3. Review of action items
https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/
a) ACTION-10: Discuss bug 19208 with johnsim
https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/10
4. Baseline documents
a) Encrypted Media Extensions editor's draft
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html
Last updated on Feb 26.
b) Candidate FPWD
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media-fpwd.html
5. Progression to First Public Working Draft
a) CfC: to publish Encrypted Media Extensions specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0102.html
Team's statement about scope:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0122.html
Chair's CfC decision:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0123.html
Status: Paul is working with the WG Chairs on the next steps.
6. Discussion of outstanding bugs
a) Encrypted Media Extensions bugs:
http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo
Status as of Mar 24: 39 bugs (see list at end of agenda)
7. Other Business
8. Chair and Scribe for next meeting
9. Adjournment
== Dial-in and IRC Details ==
Zakim teleconference bridge:
+1.617.761.6200, conference 63342 ("media")
https://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_5366
Supplementary IRC chat (logged):
#html-media on irc.w3.org port 6665 or port 80
Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
39 bugs found.
ID▲
Product
Comp
Assignee
Status
Resolution
Summary
Changed
16540
HTML WG
Encrypte
ddorwin@google.com
ASSI
---
Provide guidelines on Key System string format
2013-03-07
16541
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
ASSI
---
Update examples to use async XHR
2012-08-28
16553
HTML WG
Encrypte
ddorwin@google.com
ASSI
---
Consider not firing a needkey event when a potentially encrypted stream is encountered if the key is already known
2013-03-10
16616
HTML WG
Encrypte
ddorwin@google.com
ASSI
---
Support change of key during playback
2013-03-09
16617
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
ASSI
---
Consider more granular error reporting
2012-08-28
16737
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
ASSI
---
Should MEDIA_KEYERR_CLIENT be two separate errors?
2012-09-04
16738
HTML WG
Encrypte
ddorwin@google.com
ASSI
---
Provide more guidance on heartbeat implementation
2012-12-11
16857
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
ASSI
---
MEDIA_ERR_ENCRYPTED should exclude decrypt failure
2012-09-04
17199
HTML WG
Encrypte
watsonm@netflix.com
ASSI
---
Provide examples for and get feedback on Key Release
2013-03-18
17203
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
ASSI
---
Should session ID be required?
2012-12-11
17660
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
REOP
---
need token relative with user identity for a new generateKeyRequest parameter
2012-10-31
17673
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
REOP
---
Define Initialization Data for implementations that choose to support the ISO Base Media File Format
2013-01-27
17750
HTML WG
Encrypte
ddorwin@google.com
ASSI
---
Define the behavior MediaKeySession close() and clearing the keys attribute
2012-10-31
18515
HTML WG
Encrypte
ddorwin@google.com
ASSI
---
Provide more details on behavior of the media element when the key for an encrypted block is not available
2013-03-11
18928
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
MediaKeySession IDL should list EventHandler attributes for onkeyadded, onkeymessage, and onkeyerror
2012-12-04
19009
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
A MediaKeys should belong to a single HTMLMediaElement.
2013-02-11
19096
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Add 'type' attribute to MediaKeyNeededEvent
2012-12-04
19156
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Switching decoders when the key system is specified
2013-03-02
19208
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Keymessage event not needed when Key System already has Key
2013-03-10
19788
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
What, if any, event should be fired when no key is available to decrypt the block?
2013-03-12
19805
HTML WG
Encrypte
ddorwin@google.com
ASSI
---
Restriction to only use initData in createSession is too restrictive
2012-11-01
19809
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Specify which portion of addKey() algorithm to run when updating license for a key
2012-11-01
19810
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Should key IDs be required in content and addKey()'s parameter?
2012-12-11
20335
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
ASSI
---
Replace canPlayType() with static bool isTypeSupported() on MediaKeys
2013-01-12
20336
HTML WG
Encrypte
ddorwin@google.com
NEW
---
Revert addition of keySystem attribute to HTMLSourceElement
2013-01-08
20338
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Explicitly specify whether initData is required for Clear Key
2012-12-11
20552
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Encrypted Block Encountered algorithm should not reference Initialization Data
2013-01-02
20622
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
SessionID may be assigned asynchronously in MediaKeys.createSession
2013-01-09
20688
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Provide more details on when keyadded should be fired
2013-01-16
20689
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Specify how CDM should indicate successful completion with no message for server
2013-01-16
20691
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
Should createSession()'s type parameter be required?
2013-01-16
20798
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
keySystem strings should be compared case-sensitively
2013-03-07
20944
HTML WG
Encrypte
adrianba@microsoft.com
NEW
---
EME should do more to encourage/ensure CDM-level interop
2013-02-26
20963
HTML WG
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