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[Bug 10524] Please clarify procedure and recourse for non-working group members when they are unsatisfied with a bug resolution

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:24:37 +0000
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--- Comment #14 from Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>  2010-09-13 18:24:36 ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> (In reply to comment #10)
> > (In reply to comment #9)
> > 
> > > First, the rules have not changed, they simply have been published[3].
> > > 
> > > Second, nobody has been singled out.  In my 1.75 years as co-chair, I can
> > > attest to the fact that there are plenty of people who have been counseled on
> > > their participation.  And, no, I have no intention of "outing" them.
> > > 
> > > And, finally, yes -- they are barriers to participation.  People who
> > > consistently can not follow these simple rules are not welcome to participate
> > > in this effort.  Period. 
> > > 
> > > - Sam Ruby
> > 
> > Fine.
> > 
> > Does the Decision Process not say non-members can file a change proposal?
> 
> It does not state that.  In fact, it states the opposite, and gives some, but
> not all, of the conditions for doing so.  I doubt that the conditions can ever
> be enumerated exhaustively, but for now feel free to treat as a working
> assumption that agreeing to the W3C Patent Policy and granting a non-exclusive
> copyright assignment and agreeing to the DiscussionGuidelines are a minimum set
> of requirements.  

Sorry that was my use of words. I meant to say that the Decision Process states
that non-members can file a change proposal, but ended up with a twisted
sentence. 

> 
> > Is there a rule, in the HTML WG or the W3C that states a person can only join
> > in a probationary state?
> 
> It is my hope that the DiscussionGuidelines clarify this.  Everybody is on
> probation.  Those that consistently can not follow these guidelines are not
> welcome here.


I don't find anything wrong with the Discussion Guidelines. It helps to have a
consistent set of rules, and known procedures in place. 

Just a suggestion: I wouldn't use the word probation. It has negative
connotation.

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