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- Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:14:16 +0000
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7703
Ian 'Hixie' Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |WORKSFORME
--- Comment #1 from Ian 'Hixie' Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> 2009-09-22 23:14:16 ---
> This seems strange to me. Defining whether elements are conforming or not is
> just a shorthand way of defining conformance of the document in which those
> elements reside, right? So we're really leaving the conformance of
>
> <!DOCTYPE html>
> <title></title>
> <svg><yowsers/></svg>
>
> undefined?
Not at all. We're just saying that the conformance of that document is the same
as the conformance of the following XML file:
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><head><title></title>
</head><body><svg
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><yowsers/></svg></body></html>
The conformance of this is defined in a number of specs, including most notably
HTML and SVG. It's not conforming, because SVG says that you can't use the
element "yowsers" from the SVG namespace as a child of the <svg> element.
> What should an HTML5 validator report? Is the conformance of the
> document dependent on whether the validator you are targetting supports SVG?
No, the conformance of the document has nothing to do with the validator. A
document is conforming or not even in the absence of any validation tool.
Whether the validator complains about the <html> element, the <svg> element, or
the <yowsers> element, depends on whether it supports only SVG, only HTML, or
both.
> Also, the text you added earlier:
>
> This is because the SVG specification does not define any elements
> called "cdr:license" in the SVG namespace.
>
> is not quite correct. Well, according to the change referenced in comment #15,
> it is neither conforming nor non-conforming.
No, it is non-conforming. SVG doesn't allow SVG elements that it doesn't
define, and it doesn't define an element with the namespace
"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" and the local name "cdr:license". (Note that there
is no prefix here. The local name has a colon.)
> But assuming that the conformance
> of the HTML document fragment is somehow dependent on the conformance of the
> SVG fragment as defined by SVG, then it is non-conforming because SVG does not
> define an element named cdrU00003Alicense in the SVG namespace.
Correct.
Marking WORKSFORME since we seem to be on the same page here.
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