- From: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 14:26:20 -0700
- To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@google.com>, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Michael[tm] Smith" <mike@w3.org>, Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, Ted O'Connor <eoconnor@apple.com>
+ Alex and Dominic >> On Jul 28, 2014, at 12:27 PM, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com> wrote: >> >>> On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote: >>> >>> It is not news that there are strong opinions concerning both longdesc >>> and ARIA-DescribedAt. However, it would be best for us all to carefully >>> double-check, and even document our assertions about the positions of >>> entities other than our own before representing them categorically in >>> public email. >> >> Comments made both publicly and privately have indicated that individuals from the Chrome and Mozilla teams disapprove of the aspect of @aria-describedat that affects mainstream UI. I also added an editorial note to the spec. Here's the context of one quote from Alex: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Jun/0013.html And my response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Jun/0015.html I contacted Dominic off-list to ask if I could share his comment in context. I had forgotten that the original was a non-public email. He agreed and here's the context. Dominic wrote: > I have no strong opinion on supporting longdesc and/or aria-describedat for exclusive use by screen readers or other AT - i.e. as something that'd be invisible to most users. > > One thing I feel more strongly about: until now, everything in ARIA only affects how the user agent communicates with AT, it never changes the visual layout or the semantics of how the page works for users who aren't running any AT. Exposing aria-describedat in the context menu would be a significant departure from this. One potential concern is that web developers would become more suspicious of ARIA in general and not want to apply simple accessibility bug fixes without worrying about the implications for their design.
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