- From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 15:46:40 -0600
- To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, "Michael(tm) Smith" <mike@w3.org>
- Cc: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Sam, Paul, and Maciej, and Mike, On the surface Simon's reasoning below appears logical. However, the change still biases Issue 30 for the same rationale provided in: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0425.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0453.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0455.html If the revert does not happen, then I object to the HTML5 differences from HTML4 heartbeat spec being published as well as the HTML5 spec for these same reasons. I would have filed a Last Call Formal Objection had I known that the Chairs would delay ISSUE-30, not expedite it as promised, and that it would still be undecided today. Working Group members were mislead. Mike, I assume one recourse to all of this is to file an appeal to have Last Call rescinded as it was entered into under a false promise [1]. Is this correct? Best Regards, Laura [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0425.html Related documentation: November 30, 2010, Sam Ruby said to Gregory, "Our position has always been that we are seeking a description of what problems longdesc solves, and a description of how long desc makes things better." http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Nov/0299.html November 30, 2010, I replied and asked Sam, "I have been gathering documentation [4]. It is just a matter of if it will be productive to try to reopen ISSUE-30 or more efficient go straight to a Formal Objection. Your advice?" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Nov/0298.html November 30, 2010, Sam Ruby replied, "I do not recommend that you proceed directly with that information directly to the Director. My advice is that that information, when it is deemed to be complete, be presented to the HTML WG on public-html." http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Nov/0300.html February 21, 2011, instead of filing a Formal Objection I asked for Issue 30 to be reopened because of Sam's November 30 email. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Feb/0362.html May 25, 2011, in the "Responses to Last Call survey objections" the Chairs promised to expedite the processing of Issue 30 issue during Last Call. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0347.html To date this as not happened. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com> wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:50:06 +0100, Laura Carlson > <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello Sam, Paul, and Maciej, >> >> As ISSUE-30 longdesc is still an open issue and not yet decided, I >> request that the following be reverted: >> >> >> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/html5/html4-differences/Overview.src.html.diff?r1=1.167;r2=1.168 >> >> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16237 > > > It seems to reflect the current state of the HTML5 spec, AFAICT, since the > HTML5 spec lists obsolete features in the "Obsolete features" section. > > http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/obsolete.html#obsolete > > As for open issues, the diffs draft says: > > "HTML5 is still a draft. The contents of HTML5, as well as the contents of > this document which depend on HTML5, are still being discussed on the HTML > Working Group and WHATWG mailing lists. The open issues are linked from the > HTML5 draft." > > http://dev.w3.org/html5/html4-differences/Overview.src.html#open-issues > > > >> I ask that working group process not be bypassed and circumvented and >> that the change be reverted until such time as the issue is fairly >> heard and openly decided. >> >> Thank you for your consideration. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Laura >> -- >> Laura L. Carlson > > > > -- > Simon Pieters > Opera Software -- Laura L. Carlson
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