- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:06:28 +0200
- To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Cc: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Laura Carlson, Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:43:29 -0500:
>>> Sidebar: Something to keep in mind for the examples is that charts and
>>> graphs are not usually interchangeable with data tables so they don't
>>> usually make good long descriptions.
>>
>> [ snip ]
>>> Joe Clark talked about this a few years ago in a WCAG comment. [1]
>>> WCAG revised their example after his comment to:
>>>
>>> "A bar chart compares how many widgets were sold in June, July, and
>>> August. The short label says, "Figure one - Sales in June, July and
>>> August." The longer description identifies the type of chart, provides
>>> a high-level summary of the data, trends and implications comparable
>>> to those available from the chart. Where possible and practical, the
>>> actual data is provided in a table."
>>
>> Doesn't seem sidebar to me ... Rather, it is material info and
>> justification for having a way to identify to a long description.
>
> Yes it is very material to the longdesc function but a sidebar to
> Steve's code example of basically:
>
> <details>
> <summary>Image</summary>
> Long Description.
> </details>
What I meant was that if the definition of "Long Description" is what
WCAG describes in the quote above, then Steve's code examples needs
room for an optional table:
<details>
<summary>Image</summary>
Long Description.
<table>
<caption>Diagram as table</caption>
[ snip ]
</table>
</details>
> If that could work without a disclosure triangle or any visual
> indication of a long description being present and without any
> JavaScript or CSS hacka, it might work for an in-page longdesc.
Just wrap the <details/> inside an <object> element:
<object data="image" role="img">
<details>
<summary>Alt text equivalent</summary>
Long Description.
<table>
<caption>Diagram as table</caption>
[ snip ]
</table>
</details>
</object>
(Of course, that means that you have to battle a little bit with with
legacy issues w.r.t. <object/>)
> But @longdesc already does that. And @longdesc does it out of page
> too. We need both.
+1
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leif halvard silli
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