- From: Dave Reynolds <dave.e.reynolds@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:48:35 +0100
- To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- CC: W3C public GLD WG WG <public-gld-wg@w3.org>
Thanks Sandro, very helpful. I won't be able to think about the implications for ORG properly until next week at the earliest. On 16/04/13 21:36, Sandro Hawke wrote: > On 04/13/2013 03:52 AM, Dave Reynolds wrote: >> So some clarifying questions: >> >> (a) What's the constraints on marking things "At Risk" at CR stage. >> Can we mark things "At Risk" which weren't marked that way at Last Call? >> > > A very fine point, on which I also asked for clarification. In fact, > yes, you technically can add "At Risk" flags when going to CR. The > assumption is that folks who reviewed it during LC will at least notice > those "At Risk" flags in the CR document, and can send in their comments > and object then, if necessary. Good to have the option. > (but hopefully we wont need to do this) >> (b) Would it be OK to have specific bundles of features in the CR >> criteria? We defined a notion of profiles at Last Call but obviously >> didn't list any profile sub-sets of ORG itself. >> > > I don't really understand this question. Hopefully it's obsolete. Maybe. In trying to figure how to approach CR I've been thinking of ORG as a simple core (the notion of an organization, minimal properties for describing and classifying one, simple membership properties) plus a set of "features". These are: 1. sites and addresses 2. organizational substructure 3. posts 4. roles and the org:Membership n-ary relation 5. historical information 6. collaborations Each "feature" is a bundle of classes, properties and the occasional axiom. The early ones are used a lot. It's less clear how much the later ones have been used to date. The thing I'm mulling over is that if no one during CR touches a feature at all, say historical information, then we might worry it has not had sufficient work out to be sure it is fit for purpose. Whereas if they touch a feature but don't use every corner if it then that's fine. >> (c) How problematic would it be if we moved ORG to a Note? >> > > My impression is that there is a community of potential adopters that > would appreciate having some vocabularies (like org) having this kind of > stamp of approval. I have no first-hand data on this, though. We > could pointedly ask everyone in the WG if they have any evidence of a > need for these vocabs to be RECs. I was thinking of the comments during the Best Practices discussion about whether many people not directly involved in W3C really understand the significance of REC track. > Another issue here: as Phil mentioned, we're working hard to come up > with an alternative to the REC-track for vocabularies -- a more > scalable, fast, and cheap way produce vocabularies which are high > quality and stable. I'm fairly confident we'll succeed, so then it > wont matter much whether org is a REC or a NOTE. But still this effort > might fail, and then we might wish we'd gotten a REC while we had the > chance. That's very useful. It was partly the thought that we would do this work and then a new simpler solution will come along to make it all pointless that was prompting all this. It's a good point that we can't rely on that. Dave
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