- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:43:07 +0200
- To: public-fx@w3.org
Hello public-fx,
http://www.w3.org/2011/07/11-fx-minutes.html
and below as text.
CSS-SVG Task Force Teleconference
11 Jul 2011
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-fx/2011JulSep/0000.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/11-fx-irc
Attendees
Present
Erik, Simon, hober, fantasai, tab, Chris, dbaron, Doug
Regrets
Chair
Erik
Scribe
ChrisL
Contents
* [4]Topics
* [5]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 11 July 2011
<scribe> scribenick: ChrisL
<ed> Agenda:
[6]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-fx/2011JulSep/0000.htm
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[6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-fx/2011JulSep/0000.html
ed: main topic is f2fagenda
[7]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Seattle_2011/agenda_pr
oposals
[7] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Seattle_2011/agenda_proposals
ed: first, animation module. mainly extension o apply to svg
... any other aspects?
... talk of animation apis, is that ready for discussion
smfr: dean not on the call but has been working on it
... please add to agenda
ChrisL: maybe an implementation roundup for that spec
smfr: also the interaction with smil-based animation, and timing
issues, timebase, etc
... also requestAnimationFrame API
have people seen the inria work on timesheets in js with html5 and
svg
[8]http://wam.inrialpes.fr/timesheets/
[8] http://wam.inrialpes.fr/timesheets/
ed: next is svg paint in css generated images
ChrisL: tab you will be there?
tab: yes
ed: can you prepare a wiki page describing this, or a link to a
proposal, for the meeting?
tab: sure will send link later today ... wait 2 weeks ago. dean
responded
shepazu: saw that, good idea
tab: wil ladd to spec after wd is published
fantasai: its already copied to /TR so start editing the ED
ed: next is filter effects, dino and i working on this. one thing is
defining hit testng
... pointer events mostly
... also the enable-background possible deprecation
... will update spec to 1.1se before meeting, also some new things
... these topics came up before
ChrisL: with feDisplace it makes a big difference and people will be
surprised
shepazu: there was mention of an opacity filter for pointer events.
some maths discussions but its interesting
smfr: seems like we should talk about this at f2f
ed: doug maybe we can collect info on a wiki page for that agenda
item
shepazu: happy to write up a strawman spec text. not seen input from
tantek on that
... it affects css3 ui
<fantasai> [9]http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-ui/#pointer-events
[9] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-ui/#pointer-events
ed: next topic is extending svg compositing to css
<ed> [10]http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGCompositing/
[10] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGCompositing/
tab: not sure on technical side but it seems readsonable. want to
see how it would be used in css.
... not sure how its would be used in html/css
<TabAtkins_> tab: It seems very sensitive to the order of elements
in the DOM, which may be troublesome when used with HTML, but then
it might be okay, based on use-cases.
ed: ast item is fx transforms, which covers 2d transforms
ChrisL: status of 3d transforms wrt that?
smfr: vincent was asking for that. 3d tx is laid ontop of 2d so they
need to be kept in sync
... reason we had sepeaate specs was that we assumed 2d would be
implemented more quickly, which happened
ChrisL: is the sync automatic or does it need work
smfr: needs work
... 2d shoudl lay groundwork for 3d
ed: so from that list, anything missing?
ChrisL: 'restricted text' (CGM) replacement for SVG, is there
something from css we can use there?
<fantasai> CGM?
smfr: maybe we can get a solution for single line cases. css is the
place for it. multiline is complicated
ChrisL: maybe copyfit from gcpm?
<hober> fantasai:
[11]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Graphics_Metafile
[11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Graphics_Metafile
ChrisL: will write it up before the f2f
ed: parameters is not on the list of topics. room for discussion
there?
smfr: is that svg specific?
ed: that is the question
... css3 images has a way to reference parts of images
tab: which we get from media fragments
smfr: maybe talk about media fragments. can also select part of n
html document. somene suggested an id to a fragment ....
tab: background-image-frame
... ie9 has multiple viewbox id support
shepazu: link?
<hober>
[12]http://www.w3.org/mid/3C4041FF83E1E04A986B6DC50F0178290C57D9@TK5
EX14MBXC297.redmond.corp.microsoft.com
[12] http://www.w3.org/mid/3C4041FF83E1E04A986B6DC50F0178290C57D9@TK5EX14MBXC297.redmond.corp.microsoft.com
<TabAtkins_>
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Jul/0139.html
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Jul/0139.html
ed: for svg params, other params as well as viewBox. not clear if
its useful outside of svg
tab: there is intereting overlap, like the elem function in css3
images
<dbaron> is there any filter stuff that should be on the f2f agenda?
dnaron, yes
ed: in coming week, we wil settle the fx day agenda and get some
writeups on thew wiki. send details to fx mail list or add it to the
wiki
smfr: location of fx meeting?
ChrisL: same as css, microsoft confirmed they would host
ed: also to confirm the dte since that came up recenltly. tues 26
july
... any other topics? or end early
shepazu: on params, we want ot be compatible with css and there were
so many svg use cases so the syntax ... ebecauseoof thedifferent use
cases, is there overlap.
tab: so its acessed how do i use it as a css background
shepazu: any url syntax so works anywhere
... passing in keyword parameters via the url
... we should talk about it but css is only affected indirectly
... what about passing parameters *to* css
tab: ties into the variables spec. will be writing up that now. good
to coordinate there
shepazu: different use cases bt the more similarity in features the
better. maybe a telcon about that
tab: cool
ed: any other business?
... so unless any urgent business next meeting is f2f
zakim you suck
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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Chris Lilley Technical Director, Interaction Domain
W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead
Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG
Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups
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