TELECON AGENDA - 6 AUG 2008

Regrets so far: Rafael
Start Time: 10:45am Eastern US (15:45Z, except 14:45Z during US DST)
Duration: 90 minutes

Previous minutes: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0039.html
IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-forms-minutes.html

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
Joern, Blake, Kenneth, David, Rafael, MarkB, MarkS, Raman, Sebastian
Erik, Susan, Nick, Keith, Ulrich, Rogelio, Charlie, Steven

AGENDA ITEMS:
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* = be ready to discuss

REPORTS (10 minutes)
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Upcoming telecons
- Summer availability questionnaire: 
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32219/formssummer08/

* XForms Event
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0032.html

Next FtF (October 15-16 Virtual, Oct. 20-21 Cannes)
- Overview: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/
- Registration: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/
- Schedule: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Schedule
- Need zakim booking from adminreq@w3.org by 10 October 2008

- Meetings needed? Spread-the-word activities?
webapps (m12n, js lib), HTML, CDF (mustUnderstand), XML Sec

The Forms Newsletter

* XForms 1.1
- Need Appendix E Input Mode changes from Steven
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0024.html
- Need SOAP, encoding and charset changes from John
- Implementation report progress?

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1

Rich Web Application Backplane


ACTION ITEMS (10 minutes)
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Action Item List:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0044.html

BUG FIX ISSUES (0 minutes)
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XBRL
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0011.html

The meaning of message
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html

The repeat-* attributes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html


ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES (10 minutes)
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* XML Base PER response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0011.html

* XSD 1.1 last call review deadline 12 Sept.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0059.html

* Forms Task Force
- Latest: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms-tf/2008Jun/0000.html
- Architecture alignment strawman: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0068.html

Fix our shortname issue
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0096.html
http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions

Marketing of XForms
Name/Tagline: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0060.html
Community: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0054.html


FUTURE VERSION ISSUES (60 minutes)
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* Review of XPath Functions Module
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/instance/xpathFunctions/index-all.html
- Changes to make module less dependent on other modules
- Editorial Notes

* Review of Binding Attributes Module
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/instance/bindingAttributes/index-all.html
- context example
- References, Dependencies, Dynamic Dependencies
- Editorial Notes

* Review of Actions module
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/instance/actions/index-all.html
- Reference to XHTML Modularization, and explanation of meaning of 
ampersand
- XML Events, if/while
- Examples are very dependent on things not defined

* Review of Bind Module
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/model/bind/index-all.html

* Draft Instance Data Module
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0001.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jul/0008.html
- Need the split to be done soon

We should automate boolean-from-string() on the boolean MIPs (relevant, 
readonly, constraint)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0069.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0077.html

Validity notification on initial or hidden data
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0015.html
- Isn't it about time we add an xforms-control-initialize event?

The xforms-hide feature suggestion
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0035.html



XForms 2.0
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Refactor dependencies to detect automatic rebuild conditions and reduce 
circular dependencies
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/att-0069/2008-05-28.html#topic6

Make progress on Model improvements (optional model, nested model, 
external model)
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Make_model_optional
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Externally_defined_models_with_src_attribute

xforms-submit-done response-body and host language submission result 
targeting
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008May/0048.html
Discussed 21 May 2008; perhaps only for replace="none"

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