- From: Sean Bechhofer <sean.bechhofer@manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:45:36 +0100
- To: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Cc: Thomas Bandholtz <thomas.bandholtz@innoq.com>, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, Jérôme Mainka <mainka@antidot.net>, Thomas Francart <thomas.francart@mondeca.com>
On 17 Jun 2008, at 09:32, Bernard Vatant wrote: > > Thomas > >> Hi Bernard, >> >> 2008/05/skos is not downwards compatible with 2004/02/skos! >> E.g.skos:subject is discontinued, and there is no class TopConcept >> any more. > OK. Let me explain my use case and concern. We've been using SKOS > in Mondeca for quite a while, among other things, for outcoming > workflow towards search engines (Antidot, in cc). > This is not for toys, it's implemented in production workflow with > major customers. See e.g., http://itis1.antisearch.net/fpnrportal/. > You won't see it, but there is SKOS under the hood of the faceted > classification. And also we've been importing vocabularies > published in SKOS, like GEMET which you know well. > Consider we have been as careful as to use only SKOS features we > considered stable, and actually they are, (so none of the above), > namely we've been using only so far in this workflow. > > skos:Concept > skos:ConceptScheme > skos:inScheme > skos:hasTopConcept > skos:prefLabel > skos:broader > skos:narrower > skos:definition > > All of those have been there since the early SKOS drafts, even well > before it was on the W3C track, and they are still there in the new > release, but with a new namespace. Why? > The semantics of those has not changed, or has it? Bernard In some cases, the semantics /have/ changed. For example (and I appreciate that this in itself may be an issue for discussion), skos:broader and skos:narrower are no longer defined to be transitive (as was the case in the 2004 vocabulary). Some additional discussion on this question was here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Apr/0032.html > Thanks for the pointer, answering my previous post. Reading http:// > www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#skosnamespace where the > decision was taken, I keep being puzzled at e.g., (Guus speaking) : > "people using the old namespace would migrate without problem" and > "anyway as long as the old namespace is there, nothing is made > incoherent". What does that mean? I think what Guus means by the second statement is that if the 2004/ skos document is available, vocabularies using it can still be interpreted consistently. If we change the 2004/skos vocab in situ, this may no longer be the case. Cheers, Sean -- Sean Bechhofer School of Computer Science University of Manchester sean.bechhofer@manchester.ac.uk http://www.cs.manchester.ac.uk/people/bechhofer
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