- From: Miles, AJ \(Alistair\) <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:47:57 +0100
- To: <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, "Mark van Assem \(E-mail\)" <mark@cs.vu.nl>
Hi Mark, > One use of WordNet is if you want to annotate a text with a specific > sense of "bank" occuring in a text. You need a WordSense for > that, not > Word or Synset. For another application, e.g. counting the # > occurences of a specific Word, you would like to annotate using Words. > > Analogous for SKOS thesauri: > > If you would like to annotate a text with a specific non-preferred > term, you need a URI. Annotating using the Concept is something > different, analogous to the different meanings of annotating using a > Synset, WordSense or Word. I can understand why you would want to 'annotate' a document with a WordSense. But why would you want to 'annotate' a document with a non-preferred term from a thesaurus? What would such an 'annotation' mean? > Another bonus of having URIs for Terms is that it becomes possible to > map terms in different languages to each other, instead of just > Concepts. This would enable mapping between a non-pref term in one > language to a pref term in another. Why do you want to 'map' non-preferred terms from different languages? What would be the meaning of such a 'mapping'? Cheers, Al. [1] http://www.limber.rl.ac.uk/External/SW_conf_thes_paper.htm [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2003Oct/0012.html [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2003Nov/0008.html [4] http://jodi.ecs.soton.ac.uk/Articles/v01/i08/Doerr/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark van Assem [mailto:mark@cs.vu.nl] > Sent: 19 October 2005 17:04 > To: Miles, AJ (Alistair) > Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org > Subject: Re: notes at contepts vs notes at terms > > > Hi Alistair, > > > The thing is, I don't think that a class of 'non-preferred > terms' in the thesaurus sense would correspond to the class > of wordnet WordSenses. The wordnet metamodel (is [1] the > latest version?) has three main classes: 'Word' 'WordSense' > and 'Synset'. I think the class wn:Word (which is a > super-class of wn:Collocation) is closest to the notion of a > 'non-preferred term', but even that I don't think matches, > because a non-preferred term is always embedded in a > thesaurus, and hence represents a relationship between > several entities, whereas a Word is kind of an entity in its > own right ... > > I don't think I understand your response to my point. I will try to > make myself a bit clearer, maybe that helps you to point out what I'm > missing :-) > > I refer to WN because I want to make an analogy between the different > ways WN can be used to annotate and the different ways a SKOS > thesaurus can be used provided there are URIs for terms. > > One use of WordNet is if you want to annotate a text with a specific > sense of "bank" occuring in a text. You need a WordSense for > that, not > Word or Synset. For another application, e.g. counting the # > occurences of a specific Word, you would like to annotate using Words. > > Analogous for SKOS thesauri: > > If you would like to annotate a text with a specific non-preferred > term, you need a URI. Annotating using the Concept is something > different, analogous to the different meanings of annotating using a > Synset, WordSense or Word. > > BTW there is a need for a class of preferred terms also, is there a > specific reason you focus on the non-preferred in this mail? > > Yep, [1] is the most recent. > > Another bonus of having URIs for Terms is that it becomes possible to > map terms in different languages to each other, instead of just > Concepts. This would enable mapping between a non-pref term in one > language to a pref term in another. > > > There are other alternatives to defining a class of > non-preferred terms, such as e.g. > > If there are no compelling reasons to avoid a class Term I would > prefer a class solution. > > Cheers, > Mark. > > > > [1] http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mark/wn/17-10-05/wn.rdfs > > -- > Mark F.J. van Assem - Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam > mark@cs.vu.nl - http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mark >
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