- From: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:52:50 +0200
- To: "Stella Dextre Clarke" <sdclarke@lukehouse.demon.co.uk>, "'Miles, AJ \(Alistair\) '" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>, <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
Stella I appreciate very much your bottom line > ... the network of relationships may be a more reliable indicator than the URI. Food for thought in this domain can be found in old debates in Topic Maps community around the notion of "subject identity" [1]. Which properties should be used to infer that two "subjects" (read : "concepts") are identical? A fundamental Semantic Web axiom is that subject identity can/should be captured through a single property (a URI). But more than whatever is declared by a URI (in its very structure, and/or whatever "Resource" it "Identifies"), it's indeed the way(s) the URI is used, otherwise said its network of relationships (for example in a concept scheme, but not only ...) which carry better its identity. [1] See e.g. http://www.isotopicmaps.org/pipermail/sc34wg3/2003-November/001909.html Bernard Vatant Senior Consultant Knowledge Engineering Mondeca - www.mondeca.com bernard.vatant@mondeca.com > -----Message d'origine----- > De : public-esw-thes-request@w3.org > [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]De la part de Stella Dextre > Clarke > Envoye : vendredi 13 aout 2004 13:34 > A : 'Miles, AJ (Alistair) '; public-esw-thes@w3.org > Objet : RE: Scheme versioning & change management > > > > These lines in an earlier message caught my eye: > "As a convention for managing URIs for concepts, I suggest that once a > concept URI has been published, preference should always be given to > deprecating and replacing with a new concept, rather than altering the > concept. > > Usually, when a concept is dropped from a scheme, another concept or > combination of concepts is added to replace it. " > > Just a little health warning: concepts are not so cut and dried as you > might expect. They are slippery customers, and it is often impractical > to decide when a concept has been "changed" or when the thesaurus entry > has changed without changing the concept. Here are some of the changes > that can happen to the record for a concept: > - A new scope note is added. (Has the concept changed, or has it simply > been clarified?) > - An existing scope note is changed. (But the editor would argue, the > intended concept has not changed, only been clarified because some > people were misinterpreting it) > - New relationships are added. (No change to the original concept, only > an amendment when additional concepts were added to the thesaurus) > - New relationships are added. (The concept looks the same, its > preferred term is the same, but it never did have a scope note and in > fact the new hierarchical relationship presents it in such a way that > the concept will be perceived differently and effectively will have > changed.) > - The preferred term and one of its non-preferred terms are swapped. > (But the concept has not changed.) > - The spelling of the preferred term is changed (Just a correction, so > the concept has not changed.) > In any case, concepts tend to creep slowly and subtly over the years as > people gradually shift their patterns of terminology use. > > It is often quite subjective deciding whether a thesaurus change amounts > to a change in a particular concept. The ID assigned to a particular > concept (or term) is often applied automatically without the editor even > seeing it. And that ID is often the basis for the URI. When making the > changes, the editor may do them by deleting a record completely and > starting afresh EVEN THOUGH the concept has not changed, and in the > process deriving a completely new ID and URI, or may just modify an > existing record, retaining the same ID and hence URI, but maybe this > time the concept really has changed! > > Sorry to go on a bit. I am just trying to point to the danger of relying > on automatically assigned identifiers to show where concepts have or > have not changed. ( And if the IDs were added humanly, they would still > be subject to errors and subjectivity). > > Also, I'm not sure I agree with the assertion that "Usually, when a > concept is dropped from a scheme, another concept or combination of > concepts is added to replace it." I suspect that what this intended to > describe was the dropping of terms rather than concepts. Concepts are > sometimes but not often dropped from schemes. Terms may be dropped, or > rather they may become non-preferred terms pointing to a different > preferred term, and during this process the original concept may be > retained or subtly modified. It is useful to track the original concept > if you can, and the network of relationships may be a more reliable > indicator than the URI. > > Stella > > ***************************************************** > Stella Dextre Clarke > Information Consultant > Luke House, West Hendred, Wantage, Oxon, OX12 8RR, UK > Tel: 01235-833-298 > Fax: 01235-863-298 > SDClarke@LukeHouse.demon.co.uk > ***************************************************** > > > >
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