- From: Leonard Will <L.Will@willpowerinfo.co.uk>
- Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 23:09:39 +0100
- To: "'public-esw-thes@w3.org'" <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
I've been away for a few days, so was not able to participate in this discussion earlier, but some points occur to me in connection with some of the issues mentioned. 1. There is a risk of ambiguity if you use the expression "hasTopConcept", because it seems that you intend it to be an attribute of a _scheme_, equivalent to "contains as a top concept". In traditional thesaurus terminology, "has top term" (symbol TT) is used as an attribute of a _term_ (i.e. of a concept) term 1 TT: term 2 means "term 1 occurs in a hierarchical tree of which term 2 is the top" 2. In principle, semantic relationships should be independent of concept schemes, so long as the concepts are defined precisely and identically in all schemes, and so long as the only relationships specified are those which are generally valid and not context-dependent. Some steps in a hierarchy in one scheme may be missing from another scheme, but the direct or indirect BT/NT relationships should still be valid. This is a counsel of perfection, however, and in reality concepts are often ill-defined and their definition has to be inferred from their relationships. There is thus a chicken and egg situation. To avoid ambiguity we have in general to say which scheme a relationship comes from (except perhaps in the case where all schemes under consideration specify the relationship identically). 3. In message <350DC7048372D31197F200902773DF4C05E50B79@exchange11.rl.ac.uk> on Wed, 4 Aug 2004, "Miles, AJ (Alistair)" <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk> wrote > >If we made skos:hasTopConcept functional, each scheme would have to be >defined with a single root concept ... do you think it's worth doing it that >way? If you constructed hierarchies with true generic relationships, any single root concept would be so general as to be useless. If you work up a hierarchical tree and group concepts as far as possible, you generally end up with top terms which effectively define facets, such as "organisms", "events", "abstract concepts", "places", "objects", and so on. The only broader term common to all of these is something like "concepts", which is not helpful. 4. There are different interpretations of "microthesaurus", as Stella says, but I think of them as selections of terms relevant to a particular subject field, drawn from a more general thesaurus. They are helpful to people wanting to browse terms in that field, but I don't think it is necessary or helpful to bother about top terms within a microthesaurus. You can have a microthesaurus for clothing, and many of the terms within it, like "shirts" may have broader terms like "textile products" that do not fall within that microthesaurus. The judgement of what is relevant to a subject field is necessarily subjective, and users should be able to navigate up a tree even if it takes them outside that selection. In fact there is some inconsistency in the UKAT use of microthesauri, and in some cases they have drifted into defining them, or some of their contents, more in line with facet definitions, so that, e.g., they have "events" now in just one microthesaurus, rather than each event being in the microthesaurus covering the subject to which it relates. It's better to stick to one approach or the other (or indeed both, but separately). Leonard -- Willpower Information (Partners: Dr Leonard D Will, Sheena E Will) Information Management Consultants Tel: +44 (0)20 8372 0092 27 Calshot Way, Enfield, Middlesex EN2 7BQ, UK. Fax: +44 (0)870 051 7276 L.Will@Willpowerinfo.co.uk Sheena.Will@Willpowerinfo.co.uk ---------------- <URL:http://www.willpowerinfo.co.uk/> -----------------
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