Re: [FXLA11Y] Minutes - 18 April 2023

From Adobe – Acrobat, InDesign and FrameMaker.

The PDF Association has also been working with the leading TeX providers to ensure full tagging support including Math and CJK.

I am sure there are other vendors that do it, but I can’t speak to which ones.

Leonard

From: MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:23 PM
To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
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Leonard,

Thanks.  I did not know that.

But who embeds that tag?  Does Acrobat do so?

Regards,
Makoto

2023年4月19日(水) 2:09 Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>>:
That is incorrect Murata-san.

There is an entire section of ISO 32000 (the PDF standard) called “Ruby and warichu elements” (14.8.4.7.3) that discusses how to properly tag these elements in a PDF.

Leonard

From: MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com<mailto:eb2mmrt@gmail.com>>
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PDF tags do nothing about ruby.  In PDF documents,
ruby is just another line containing tiny characters.  As
a result, the accessibility of PDF documents containing
ruby is very poor.

Regards,
Makoto

2023年4月18日(火) 23:14 Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>>:
IN the transcript, I find:


>Gregorio: PDF tags is very limited. similar experience with PDFs and FXL.

PDF tags are *much more flexible* than (X)HTML tags, because they are (a) extensible and (b) namespaced.

Gregorio – can you give some insight into your statement?

Leonard

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Hi all,

Here are the minutes from today’s meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/04/18-epub-fxl-minutes.html


Thanks,
Wendy


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