Re: EOCred: name search for credentialing organization

Fair enough.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
wrote:

>
> On 27/03/18 18:06, Hugh Paterson III wrote:
>
> In general I think I am fine without coopting the value from permit.
> However, In this whole process I am not seeing how the assertion of a badge
> holder or credential token holder actually is verified. But the
> verification of tokens I think is a separate assertion.
>
> That's a fair point, but we're not trying to duplicate what can be done
> with Open Badges or what the Verifiable Claims WG
> <https://www.w3.org/2017/vc/WG/> / Credentials Community Group
> <https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/> will produce (in fact, we are
> trying not to duplicate that).
>
> For non-verified assertions, a simple hasEOCredential (or whatever)
> property of Person pointing to an EducationalOccupationalCredential may
> suffice. When the output of the VCWG / CCG is know that could be converted
> to schema.org and added to the range of hasEOCredential
>
> FWIW, to my mind all statements in schema.org are unverified assertions.
> Me saying I have a PhD from Bristol University is just as open to challenge
> as me saying my name Phil Barker. So I think the scope of verifying claims
> goes way beyond Educational and Occupational Credentials. (A mediating type
> of similar nature Role <http://schema.org/Role> that can be used with any
> property might work, it think the wikidata data model works like that.)
>
> What is also unclear to me is how an institution who did previously offer
> a creational and has since ceased can continue to advertise that they have
> previously offered the credential but are now not doing business with that
> token. If the offeredBy attribute is only going to exist for currently
> offered courses/credentials then how is an institution supposed to model
> past offerings?
>
> schema:Offer has a property availabilityEnds
> <http://schema.org/availabilityEnds> which can be a date in the past.
>
> Phil
>
>
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