Re: EOCred: name search for credentialing organization

On 27/03/18 18:06, Hugh Paterson III wrote:
> In general I think I am fine without coopting the value from permit.  
> However, In this whole process I am not seeing how the assertion of a 
> badge holder or credential token holder actually is verified. But the 
> verification of tokens I think is a separate assertion.
That's a fair point, but we're not trying to duplicate what can be done 
with Open Badges or what the Verifiable Claims WG 
<https://www.w3.org/2017/vc/WG/> / Credentials Community Group 
<https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/> will produce (in fact, we 
are trying not to duplicate that).

For non-verified assertions, a simple hasEOCredential (or whatever) 
property of Person pointing to an EducationalOccupationalCredential may 
suffice. When the output of the VCWG / CCG is know that could be 
converted to schema.org and added to the range of hasEOCredential

FWIW, to my mind all statements in schema.org are unverified assertions. 
Me saying I have a PhD from Bristol University is just as open to 
challenge as me saying my name Phil Barker. So I think the scope of 
verifying claims goes way beyond Educational and Occupational 
Credentials. (A mediating type of similar nature Role 
<http://schema.org/Role> that can be used with any property might work, 
it think the wikidata data model works like that.)

> What is also unclear to me is how an institution who did previously 
> offer a creational and has since ceased can continue to advertise that 
> they have previously offered the credential but are now not doing 
> business with that token. If the offeredBy attribute is only going to 
> exist for currently offered courses/credentials then how is an 
> institution supposed to model past offerings?
>
schema:Offer has a property availabilityEnds 
<http://schema.org/availabilityEnds> which can be a date in the past.

Phil


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