- From: Jose M. Alonso <josema@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:00:23 +0100
- To: eGov IG <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
All,
Minutes are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/03/04-egov-minutes
and as text below.
Two important notes:
1) Thanks much to Daniel for scribing today
2) I forgot to invite RRSAgent (the logger) to the channel. As a
result, I had to save whatever I had in my machine as IRC log and
build minutes from there. Unfortunately, I missed the firs 25 minutes
or so. Deeply sorry about it. If any of the attendees have a local
log, please send it to me. If you have comments to add on something
important, same applies.
Apologies again...
-- Jose
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[1]W3C
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- DRAFT -
eGovernment Interest Group Call
04 Mar 2009
Attendees
Present
Daniel_Bennett, kevin, josema, Brand [part], joe, Owen, john,
anne [part], Daniel, oscar [part]
Regrets
Chair
kevin, john
Scribe
Daniel_Bennett
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]F2F
2. [4]TWB Event
3. [5]what's going on? (barcamps, etc.)
* [6]Summary of Action Items
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[2] http://www.w3.org/2005/02/minutes#agenda
[3] http://www.w3.org/2005/02/minutes#item01
[4] http://www.w3.org/2005/02/minutes#item02
[5] http://www.w3.org/2005/02/minutes#item03
[6] http://www.w3.org/2005/02/minutes#ActionSummary
[minutes are incomplete, some 25 minutes at the beginning are
missing due to RRSAgent not being invited]
[there was discussion on the Group Note, deadlines, and how to deal
with comments, and tracker, then on to F2F, some on F2F also missed]
F2F
Kevin: i think so. and the boardroom will give everyone a chance to
talk with mikes at every chair
Jose: Anne are you planning to attend
Anne: yes, i will be there the whole time
Jose: Kevin is working on more invites
... if the invites impact F2F agenda we should get this effort done
in next couple days.
... do we need the lightning round if there is interactivity around
the speakers
... in any case we need to reach a final agenda soon
Joe: perhaps mixing the speakers with attendee introductions having
provocatives
<ocr> hi all
John: thinks the lightning round should still be separate from
intros
<josema> hi oscar
John: make the intros good way to quickly get a sense of crowd
<josema> [John on using tags barcamp style instead of regular
intros]
Kevin: good idea to have sense of who is talking
Daniel: (only slightly kidding) add the intro to the name tags
Jose: speechless
... avoiding actions
... we can just change agenda in wiki
... we should make changes now
Kevin: the focus should be on the barnburners
Jose: worried about loss of focus with so many subjects
Kevin: having these multiple issues is positive
<josema> good point, john
Daniel: provocations should allow lots of subjects. reflections will
allow a focus
John: some issues may make multi-channel discussion moot (on
reflection).
... worried if we just set out at beginning on 6 set subjects and
stuck to it as opposed to looking at spectrum.
Joe: we are talking about standards and criterias for standards
Kevin: Joe you are spot on (Brit term)
Joe: explaining how multiple standards being brought up lead us to
how to reach goals
Jose: who volunteers to fix agenda on wiki
Anne: this is an overlay rather than a major change
Kevin: I agree.
... the goal is to come out of the F2F on what is the pressing goals
and what are the means. and this will help to get the paper done
... we are up for charter renewal so we should focus on what is most
pressing.
Jose: thinks that having set schedule helps those who will only be
there for certain sessions
... lets be consistent
Daniel: lets just mark sessions provocative vs. reflective
John: I agree in that will give mode of operation
Joe: should there be breakouts
?
Kevin: logistically may be a problem in the space
Joe: should we use part of networking to do breakouts
<Anne> Anne's gotta go and btw I said I would *not* be able to be
there for the whole FTF. I'll check in later folks.
thanks Anne, I will fix in the final minutes
<josema> side note, forgot to mention I put together
[7]http://www.netvibes.com/w3cegov recently
[7] http://www.netvibes.com/w3cegov
<Anne> signing off. don't want to interrupt the conversation. ciao\
bye Anne
Joe: does anyone agree?
Owen: as a remote participant wouldnt be able to do break out
<John> Netvibes thing - cool
<josema> based on #ukgovoss idea but also to show we do open data
ourselves, too! All are RSS Feeds
Daniel: how about using dinners to get breakouts?
Kevin: just looking for places to let people know...
... lets think about it
<josema> what about BoF tables at lunch or dinner?
John: I like the ideas. Over two days, this is a good process.
Having 15 mins to pull together ideas.
... supports breakouts esp. on second day to allow for reflection
Kevin: how about firming agenda by Friday morning
Jose: first day provocation, second day reflection
... ?
Kevin: then for second day have some breakouts
Jose: How about setting up a separate agenda wiki page to start
working this out
Kevin: Yes, and then Friday for cut off and Monday morning for
finalization
<josema> ACTION: josema to start a separate wiki page to brainstorm
on F2F agenda
<trackbot> Created ACTION-49 - Start a separate wiki page to
brainstorm on F2F agenda on José Manuel Alonso - due 2009-03-11.
Jose: asking if everyone has wiki edit rights?, ping him if not
<josema> RESOLUTION: agenda content to be collected until Friday
night (EST); final (new) agenda to be published on Monday morning
(EST)
[RESOLUTION: agenda content to be collected until Friday night
(EST); final (new) agenda to be published on Monday morning (EST)]
TWB Event
Kevin: the world bank opted out, then found out twb and oasis was
doing joint of event
Kevin: we were asked to participate, but not collaborate.
... I will attend their meeting Apr. 17th in DC
Joe: disappointed in lack of collaboration with OASIS as this group
would be a great resources for standards
Kevin: OASIS has been good partners
<josema> reminder for myself: email the list with details on how
eGov work at W3C is funded and our own challenges
Kevin: TWB is more looking at specific interop systems
... that is a longer term process than some of our efforts
... to the TWB credit they will have two attendees at F2F
<josema> RESOLUTION: kevin to participate in TWB event
[RESOLUTION: kevin to participate in TWB event]
Jose: have we decided that we will participate in the TWB/OASIS
meeting?
Kevin: yes to Jose
what's going on? (barcamps, etc.)
Kevin: is wondering if we have reached out enough
... says bye
<John> I followed it on twitter
<josema> me, too
<josema> but was very challenging
Daniel: says one way to reach out is to mirror the #tcamp09 method
<josema> [8]http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23tcamp09
[8] http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23tcamp09
Joe: concurs
John: this is a crowd of non-IRC folks
Jose: many use "new" techs that are actually IRC interface
<John> Everyone uses twitter in the uk
everyone: discussing Twitter and other systems used
John: we will officially use IRC but I will also Tweet
Joe: how should we "name" our content
Jose: anything else?
<John> Thanks guys see you in DC
Jose: Joe you are officially in
<josema> [ADJOURNED]
Jose: we are adjourned for today
see you in DC
<joec> thanks daniel
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: josema to start a separate wiki page to brainstorm on
F2F agenda
[End of minutes]
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