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Re: Profile Guidance - New PR

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 15:55:09 +0100
To: <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, <alejandra.gonzalez.beltran@gmail.com>, "Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park)" <Nicholas.Car@csiro.au>
CC: Rob Atkinson <rob@metalinkage.com.au>, pedro winstley <pedro.win.stan@googlemail.com>, "public-dxwg-wg@w3.org" <public-dxwg-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <ee27386d-510d-1187-1e3a-9b372d70534a@few.vu.nl>
In this spirit, I've made a last PR for the Guidance doc, taking into account the last discussions of our sub-groups
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/861
Further work is going to require attempting big discussions (e.g. on inheritance) and therefore should not happen visibly indeed.

Antoine

On 27/03/2019 21:47, Karen Coyle wrote:
> Alejandra - "On hold" means that we do not expect that any work will
> take place on these documents until we are convinced that DCAT 1.1 (and
> possibly Conneg) are taken to CR status. We really do want all effort on
> those two deliverables, with DCAT taking the top effort.
> 
> We want to discourage any activity that would take the time of working
> group members or even other interested parties. If work continues on the
> profiles documents in any visible way (github issues, etc.) then it will
> inevitably suck time away from the main effort, even if it seems like a
> side-line. We're sure that everyone can find ways to further the primary
> goals.
> 
> For this week, getting the profiles documents into a stable draft using
> work already done makes sense. We want it to be easy to take these up
> again at a later date, and tying up loose ends will help with that. But
> development on them should stop for the stated time (April and May,
> unless we discover otherwise).
> 
> kc
> 
> On 3/27/19 10:06 AM, Alejandra Gonzalez-Beltran wrote:
>> Hi Antoine, all,
>>
>> I totally agree that is worth progressing with the documents reflecting
>> the discussions we already had.
>>
>> It is not totally clear what 'on hold' means, but to me it has to mean
>> that we won't release new drafts soon, rather than that we won't
>> continue working on the documents if possible. I wish these things were
>> clarified.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alejandra
>>
>> On 27/03/2019 17:00, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>> I've merged it.
>>>
>>> Actually your input makes me think that it may be our best interest if
>>> I try to create a PR now for the changes in 2.2 and 2.3 (the ones with
>>> my diagrams) today or tomorrow. As Karen said, we did cover them, and
>>> if we wait for a couple more months, then I'll probably forget again
>>> what was agreed ;-)
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>> On 27/03/2019 03:02, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>>> +1 - kc
>>>>
>>>> On 3/26/19 3:31 PM, Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park) wrote:
>>>>> I think it makes sense to tie things off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicholas Car
>>>>> Senior Experimental Scientist
>>>>> CSIRO
>>>>> nicholas.car@csiro.au | 0477 560 177
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27 Mar 2019, at 8:10 am, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm I realize that I forgot to ask when that embargo on Profile
>>>>>> work was supposed to happen.
>>>>>> But would it be possible to have this last PR accepted
>>>>>> super-quickly, before announcement go out? It's not much, does not
>>>>>> aim at handling formal github issues, and would allow to re-start
>>>>>> with a cleaner google doc in several weeks...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26/03/2019 22:03, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> (and adding Peter, for some reason you were left out of the
>>>>>>> previous messages, and I'm probably the one guilty of this)
>>>>>>> A new PR is available for review:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/846
>>>>>>> It's very small, I've just tried to clean up even more the first
>>>>>>> sub-sections before starting with 2.2 and 2.3.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>> On 19/03/2019 08:39, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the clarification, Karen!
>>>>>>>> I hope to contribute to these discussions on definitions. But
>>>>>>>> before this, if we had gone through 2.2 and 2.3 I am going to do
>>>>>>>> the changes in a new series of commits this week. And merge the
>>>>>>>> current PR as soon as I get two favorable reviews!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 19/03/2019 04:21, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Antoine, I wrote an email when my memory was more fresh [1] with
>>>>>>>>> questions that came up in 2.2+. I think we started on those but had
>>>>>>>>> trouble with definitions. I vaguely recall that we did cover the
>>>>>>>>> diagrams and no one had problems with them. Instead, as you'll
>>>>>>>>> see in my
>>>>>>>>> email, we couldn't decide how to define "profile of". I also made a
>>>>>>>>> github issue of that question.[2]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> kc
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Mar/0014.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/802
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/19 5:25 PM, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to resume work on the Profile Guidance in-between
>>>>>>>>>> trips.
>>>>>>>>>> Here's one PR to review, I hope it captures what we've
>>>>>>>>>> discussed last
>>>>>>>>>> month:
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/829
>>>>>>>>>> Note that for some part the Google docs had some unfinished
>>>>>>>>>> stuff. I've
>>>>>>>>>> tried to fill the gap in the main HTML, but I've also put as
>>>>>>>>>> suggestions
>>>>>>>>>> in the Google Doc so that you can see it here (basically it's
>>>>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>>>>> dated from today)
>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y4jP4SGZMnt63EpjTX11-hW6-3mxlaq1i-Lbiw4tx1M/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And now for the tricky bit: when I've reached 2.2, I've
>>>>>>>>>> realized that I
>>>>>>>>>> don't remember if we've discussed 2.2 and 2.3 as a group.
>>>>>>>>>> Especially I
>>>>>>>>>> don't remember that we've discussed the diagrams. What do you
>>>>>>>>>> recall?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>> -- 
>> Alejandra Gonzalez-Beltran, PhD
>> Research Lecturer
>> Junior Research Fellow at Kellogg College
>> Software Sustainability Institute Fellow
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>>
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