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Re: Profile Guidance - New PR

From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:47:56 -0700
To: alejandra.gonzalez.beltran@gmail.com, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>, "Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park)" <Nicholas.Car@csiro.au>
Cc: Rob Atkinson <rob@metalinkage.com.au>, pedro winstley <pedro.win.stan@googlemail.com>, "public-dxwg-wg@w3.org" <public-dxwg-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <a251fb12-53a5-a85b-e03a-76ed6cade1a9@kcoyle.net>
Alejandra - "On hold" means that we do not expect that any work will
take place on these documents until we are convinced that DCAT 1.1 (and
possibly Conneg) are taken to CR status. We really do want all effort on
those two deliverables, with DCAT taking the top effort.

We want to discourage any activity that would take the time of working
group members or even other interested parties. If work continues on the
profiles documents in any visible way (github issues, etc.) then it will
inevitably suck time away from the main effort, even if it seems like a
side-line. We're sure that everyone can find ways to further the primary
goals.

For this week, getting the profiles documents into a stable draft using
work already done makes sense. We want it to be easy to take these up
again at a later date, and tying up loose ends will help with that. But
development on them should stop for the stated time (April and May,
unless we discover otherwise).

kc

On 3/27/19 10:06 AM, Alejandra Gonzalez-Beltran wrote:
> Hi Antoine, all,
> 
> I totally agree that is worth progressing with the documents reflecting
> the discussions we already had.
> 
> It is not totally clear what 'on hold' means, but to me it has to mean
> that we won't release new drafts soon, rather than that we won't
> continue working on the documents if possible. I wish these things were
> clarified.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alejandra
> 
> On 27/03/2019 17:00, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>> Thanks a lot!
>> I've merged it.
>>
>> Actually your input makes me think that it may be our best interest if
>> I try to create a PR now for the changes in 2.2 and 2.3 (the ones with
>> my diagrams) today or tomorrow. As Karen said, we did cover them, and
>> if we wait for a couple more months, then I'll probably forget again
>> what was agreed ;-)
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> On 27/03/2019 03:02, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>> +1 - kc
>>>
>>> On 3/26/19 3:31 PM, Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park) wrote:
>>>> I think it makes sense to tie things off.
>>>>
>>>> Nicholas Car
>>>> Senior Experimental Scientist
>>>> CSIRO
>>>> nicholas.car@csiro.au | 0477 560 177
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 27 Mar 2019, at 8:10 am, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm I realize that I forgot to ask when that embargo on Profile
>>>>> work was supposed to happen.
>>>>> But would it be possible to have this last PR accepted
>>>>> super-quickly, before announcement go out? It's not much, does not
>>>>> aim at handling formal github issues, and would allow to re-start
>>>>> with a cleaner google doc in several weeks...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/03/2019 22:03, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> (and adding Peter, for some reason you were left out of the
>>>>>> previous messages, and I'm probably the one guilty of this)
>>>>>> A new PR is available for review:
>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/846
>>>>>> It's very small, I've just tried to clean up even more the first
>>>>>> sub-sections before starting with 2.2 and 2.3.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>> On 19/03/2019 08:39, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the clarification, Karen!
>>>>>>> I hope to contribute to these discussions on definitions. But
>>>>>>> before this, if we had gone through 2.2 and 2.3 I am going to do
>>>>>>> the changes in a new series of commits this week. And merge the
>>>>>>> current PR as soon as I get two favorable reviews!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 19/03/2019 04:21, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>>>>>>> Antoine, I wrote an email when my memory was more fresh [1] with
>>>>>>>> questions that came up in 2.2+. I think we started on those but had
>>>>>>>> trouble with definitions. I vaguely recall that we did cover the
>>>>>>>> diagrams and no one had problems with them. Instead, as you'll
>>>>>>>> see in my
>>>>>>>> email, we couldn't decide how to define "profile of". I also made a
>>>>>>>> github issue of that question.[2]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> kc
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Mar/0014.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/802
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/19 5:25 PM, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to resume work on the Profile Guidance in-between
>>>>>>>>> trips.
>>>>>>>>> Here's one PR to review, I hope it captures what we've
>>>>>>>>> discussed last
>>>>>>>>> month:
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/829
>>>>>>>>> Note that for some part the Google docs had some unfinished
>>>>>>>>> stuff. I've
>>>>>>>>> tried to fill the gap in the main HTML, but I've also put as
>>>>>>>>> suggestions
>>>>>>>>> in the Google Doc so that you can see it here (basically it's
>>>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>>>> dated from today)
>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y4jP4SGZMnt63EpjTX11-hW6-3mxlaq1i-Lbiw4tx1M/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And now for the tricky bit: when I've reached 2.2, I've
>>>>>>>>> realized that I
>>>>>>>>> don't remember if we've discussed 2.2 and 2.3 as a group.
>>>>>>>>> Especially I
>>>>>>>>> don't remember that we've discussed the diagrams. What do you
>>>>>>>>> recall?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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