- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:28:08 -0700
- To: public-dxwg-wg@w3.org
Tom, I like this:
A human- or machine-readable specification that
clarifies, constrains, combines, excerpts,
extends, or annotates one or more given data
specifications.
But would prefer a simpler enumeration like the one from RFC 6906:
"additional semantics (constraints, conventions,
extensions) that are associated with the resource representation"
So
A human- or machine-readable specification that defines additional
constraints, conventions, or extensions over one or more given data
specifications.
NB: I'm having trouble with the "human or machine-readable" because we
could have both, yet I hate doing "and/or". Plus it's easy to think that
a PDF as "machine-readable". I don't have an answer for this at the moment.
I agree with the second state about "well designed" but I think that
would be appropriate for the guidance document, not DCAT or conneg.
kc
On 6/28/19 1:29 AM, Thomas Baker wrote:
> The "previously adopted" [1] definition of "profile" reads:
>
> A named set of constraints on one or more identified
> base specifications, including the identification of
> any implementing subclasses of datatypes, semantic
> interpretations, vocabularies, options and parameters
> of those base specifications necessary to accomplish
> a particular function.
>
> Peter has very sensibly suggested that we define
> "profile" in a way that ordinary people can understand
> [2] -- and the definition above, in my opinion, fails the
> test of common sense. I'm sure we can do better. How
> about, as posted in Github issue #963 [11]:
>
> data profile
>
> A human- or machine-readable specification that
> clarifies, constrains, combines, excerpts,
> extends, or annotates one or more given data
> specifications.
>
> A well-designed data profile provides
> information, useful for describing data in a
> given context, without semantically contradicting
> the data specifications on which it is based.
>
> data specification
>
> A document, or family of related documents,
> possibly in alternative or complementary human-
> and machine-readable formats, that provide
> vocabularies or guidelines usable for describing
> data.
>
> Discussion:
>
> * Follows Antoine's uses of "specification" [3] and "data
> profile" [7].
>
> * Takes Andrea's point that "_data_ specifications are the
> only thing we have been talking about around
> 'profiles'" (emphasis mine). [4]
>
> * Takes Annette's points: that profiles are about
> customizing standards and acknowledging reuse; that a
> profile may be based on multiple standards; and that
> "an entirely new specification that isn't based
> substantially on anything previous is not a profile."
> [5]
>
> * Draws on the nice definition in RFC 6906, which says
> that a profile does not alter semantics but only
> provides additional semantics in the form of
> constraints, conventions, and extensions. [6]
>
> * Avoids the reductive and misleading characterization of
> profiles as "named sets" of anything.
>
> * Avoids the counter-intuitive notion that extensions are
> constraints.
>
> * Provides no basis for the confusing notion that
> if a profile uses three terms from Dublin Core, it is
> "profiling" the DCMI Metadata Terms specification [8].
>
> * Drops unexplained technical details:
>
> * "implementing subclasses of datatypes" (datatypes
> are not classes - at least not in RDF [9])
>
> * "options and parameters"
>
> * "necessary to accomplish a particular function"
>
> * Is consistent with the notion of "DCAT profile" (and
> Dublin Core profiles generally) and with CONNEG (for
> which it offers a less abstract definition of
> "specification").
>
>
> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/10i9oSb548T3EpK0aPFDhBNR8ycy7QFthiJgPx-pdi0Q/edit
> [2] https://www.w3.org/2019/06/25-dxwg-minutes
> [3] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Jun/0051.html
> [4] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Jun/0073.html
> [5] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Jun/0110.html
> [6] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6906
> [7] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Jun/0106.html
> [8] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2019Feb/0002.html
> [9] https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-concepts/#section-Datatypes
> [10] https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/conneg-by-ap/
> [11] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/963#issuecomment-506650168
>
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Karen Coyle
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