RE: [ExternalEmail] Re: Request for feedback: Changes to Revised DCAT Editors' Draft since 2nd PWD

If that is the case, then we should not draw attention to ODRS if we don’t want to encourage any new uses.

From: Car, Nicholas (L&W, Dutton Park) [mailto:Nicholas.Car@csiro.au]
Sent: Thursday, 17 January, 2019 10:35
To: Svensson, Lars <L.Svensson@dnb.de>
Cc: andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu; kcoyle@kcoyle.net; public-dxwg-wg@w3.org
Subject: [ExternalEmail] Re: Request for feedback: Changes to Revised DCAT Editors' Draft since 2nd PWD

I’ve used ODRS for licences and rights for years in Australian data catalogues but won’t do so any more now that DCAT and ODRL exist. It had its time but that’s over.


http://schema.theodi.org/odrs/


Nick


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On 17 Jan 2019, at 5:22 am, Svensson, Lars <L.Svensson@dnb.de<mailto:L.Svensson@dnb.de>> wrote:
The cited page on LOV says "Vocabulary used in 0 datasets". I tried to look it up in stats.lod2.eu<http://stats.lod2.eu> but that site is not responding any more...

Best,

Lars


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From: andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu<mailto:andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu> [mailto:andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Request for feedback: Changes to Revised DCAT Editors' Draft since
2nd PWD

Hi, Karen.

Actually, it is in LOV:

https://lov.linkeddata.es/dataset/lov/vocabs/odrs

But I have no use statistics about it.

Andrea

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-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Coyle [mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:57 PM
To: public-dxwg-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-dxwg-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Request for feedback: Changes to Revised DCAT Editors' Draft
since 2nd PWD

AHA! Thanks, Andrea - I did mis-read that. Is ODRS used much? I don't
find it at all at the Linked Open Vocabs site,[1] but that isn't
complete. It doesn't seem to have the "blessing" of a standards body.

kc
[1] https://lov.linkeddata.es/dataset/lov/terms?q=odrs


On 1/16/19 3:31 AM, andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu<mailto:andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu> wrote:
Hi, Karen.

[snip]

- a new section on


'Licenses<https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.

org%2FTR%2Fvocab-dcat-
2%2F&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io<http://2Fw3c.github.io>%2Fdxwg%2Fdcat#license-
rights>
and right statements' [3] was added to describe patterns for linking
dcat:Datasets and dcat:Distributions to the relevant license and rights
expressions.

I find the statements in point #3 referring to ODRL and copyright to be
a bit confusing, since actual ODRL licenses are covered shortly after
that. An example of using ODRL to give copyright info would be very
helpful here. (Also note typo at end of point 3 "statementss".)

Please note that in point #3 the reference is to ODRS
(https://schema.theodi.org/odrs/), not ODRL. I think we should take note
that the distinction between ODRS and ODRL needs to be somehow
highlighted in document.

+1 to having examples. I think this is what is actually missing from that
section, and it would help clarify our recommendations. I can take care of
preparing them - ideally, re-using examples already in the DCAT spec.

Thanks for noting the typo ("statementss"). I created a PR to fix it:
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/669


Cheers,

Andrea

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