- From: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>
- Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 12:00:58 -0800
- To: pedro winstley <pedro.win.stan@googlemail.com>
- Cc: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, Dataset Exchange Working Group <public-dxwg-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <704f91d4-f896-c5d3-7b4d-aef5d50970d8@lbl.gov>
Well, I think mostly the issues do end up in github; they just get postponed, or the raisers give up. Personally, I think it's a mistake to keep ignoring the hard issues and publishing anyway, because the more iterations we do the less the editors will want to allow changes. So we end up with stuff that hasn't iterated much in substance but just gets lots of little editorial changes. When I hear editors brag about how little the spec has changed, I cringe. I think what this group needs is some new people to bring a new perspective, so my feeling is that we shouldn't be rushing new versions out but that we should see what good some new voices can bring to the process. On 12/3/19 11:48 AM, pedro winstley wrote: > I understand that situation Annette, but I wonder if there's a way of > better capturing the essence of the concerns and a route to addressing > them. > > Perhaps having an abstention option with scope for adding the github > issue/s would give us a potential route. > > What do you/colleagues think? > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 19:43 Annette Greiner, <amgreiner@lbl.gov > <mailto:amgreiner@lbl.gov>> wrote: > > I think abstention is occasionally helpful, when it indicates that > you aren't completely happy with the state of the product but > don't want to block consensus. > > On 12/2/19 11:53 PM, pedro winstley wrote: >> "abstention" was mentioned in the context of the poll on the >> conneg pwd3 vote. >> >> I guess I was wrong to use that word, but there's scope to use >> the reasons box to indicate abstention. >> >> I personally don't feel that abstention is useful in a group life >> this, it makes decision making difficult. However, would >> colleagues like to see this option in polls? >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 06:35 Karen Coyle, <kcoyle@kcoyle.net >> <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote: >> >> You are right that there isn't an abstain, but we do need to >> know whether the group supports the publication of this note. >> So it would be good to hear from others if they would have >> voted if there had been an "abstain" option. We have time to >> do another poll if that is the case. >> >> kc >> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:21 AM Annette Greiner >> <amgreiner@lbl.gov <mailto:amgreiner@lbl.gov>> wrote: >> >> It does merit pointing out that the poll did not offer >> the opportunity to abstain except by declining to fill it >> in, which most of us did. >> >> -Annette >> >> On 12/2/19 3:26 AM, pedro winstley wrote: >>> Dear Colleagues >>> >>> The plenary meeting is cancelled. There are issues >>> listed in the agenda that we will deal with by >>> correspondence. >>> >>> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.12.03 >>> >>> >>> These are: >>> >>> * The Conneg PWD 3 poll results ( >>> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/Conneg3PWD/results ) >>> show 10 in favour and no abstentions >>> >>> * The general consensus on the DCAT v1 discussion is >>> that we intend to supercede DCAT1 when version 2 >>> becomes a standard and that we decide on the >>> formulation of text and links in the top of the >>> DCAT1 page in >>> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1177. Please add >>> your thoughts here >>> >>> * There are only a few hours left to complete >>> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/99375/prof-publish >>> Please cast your votes >>> >>> >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Peter & Karen - chairs >>> >> -- >> Annette Greiner (she) >> NERSC Data and Analytics Services >> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory >> >> >> >> -- >> -- --- >> Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant >> kcoyle@kcoyle.net <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net> >> http://www.kcoyle.net >> ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet >> mo.: 510-435-8234 >> ------------------------------------ >> > -- > Annette Greiner (she) > NERSC Data and Analytics Services > Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory > -- Annette Greiner (she) NERSC Data and Analytics Services Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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