Re: Check if the example of Best Practice 37: Cite the Original Publication is correct

Hi Annette,

I hope this example (see below) is a bit closer to what you are looking
for.  Another example might be to show that another derived dataset could
be from a tourist group that wants a dataset that only shows routes to
tourist destinations (e.g. bus routes to My City MarketPlace).

Because of the focus on data lineage, this example really seems like a
provenance-oriented example rather than a data usage oriented example.

This exercise leads to me wonder:

1) Is Data Reuse (described as republished existing published data) more
appropriate in the provenance best practice section? It might be nice to
have an expanded example on this subject in the provenance section.

2) Retaining Data Usage by removing the wording "republish" in the Data
Usage section and using this as an opportunity to discuss data citation and
data usage see action-251 [1] where Riccardo helped to show examples of how
the DQV and DUV could show usage statistics:

So, in conclusion, either data reuse is an example of provenance or I'm
misunderstanding the meaning of reuse.

If you want to chat let me know,

Kind regards,

Eric S

Example:

:bus-stops-2015-05-05
      a dcat:Dataset, prov:Entity ;
      dct:title "Bus stops of MyCity" ;
      dct:issued "2015-05-05"^^xsd:date ;
      prism:doi "10.3456/4567.21"^^xsd:string ;
      dct:creator :john ;
      owl:versionInfo "1.0" ;
      pav:version "1.0" ;
      .


:civic-hacker-web-data
      a dcat:Dataset, prov:Entity;
      dct:title "Derived dataset provides users departure directions" ;
      dct:issued "2016-02-29"^^xsd:date ;
      prism:doi "10.4567/89012.34"^^xsd:string ;
      dct:creator :mycitywebdev ;
      owl:versionInfo "1.0" ;
      pav:version "1.0" ;
      prov:wasDerivedFrom :bus-stops-2015-05-05 ;
      .


References
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2016Apr/0016.html



On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov> wrote:

> We need an example of how a published dataset of some kind would reference
> another dataset that it's reusing. In the case of data published as a web
> app, the app needs to inform the user of where it gets its data. An example
> would be a web app that some civic hackers built to let users enter a
> departure location and a place they want to go and receive directions for
> how to get there via public transit. That app should indicate to the user
> where the data comes from, so that the user can determine whether they
> trust it. The memorandum is not a dataset nor a derivation of a dataset, so
> it's not an example of what we're talking about. Eric said he would come up
> with something, so let's see what he says.
>
>
> On 4/6/16 2:49 PM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio wrote:
>
> Hi Annette,
>
> The current example shows the description of a document ("memorandum")
> that references the dataset. If you'd like to describe that an application
> uses a given dataset then duv:usage should be used.  So, for your example I
> think it would be better to use duv:usage.
>
> I also don't understand what do you mean by "a web app citing the data".
> Could you please give an example?
>
> Thanks,
> Berna
>
>
>
> 2016-04-06 16:33 GMT-03:00 Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>:
>
>> Eric,
>> Looking at this now, I'm not sure we were thinking of the same thing. I
>> was thinking this should show how a derived dataset would cite the original
>> it was derived from. I'm not sure what relationship you intended with the
>> "memorandum". The human-readable UI version (I was thinking of a web app
>> citing the data) could probably be
>>
>> Data source: MyCity Transit Agency, "Bus Stops of MyCity", Version 1.0,
>> May 5, 2015. DOI: 10.3456/4567.21.
>>
>> -Annette
>>
>> On 4/6/16 11:42 AM, Caroline Burle wrote:
>>
>> Dear Eric and Annette,
>>
>> We are wondering if would be possible for you to review the example of
>> Best Practice 37: Cite the Original Publication [1] and check if it is
>> correct before our next meeting on Friday. We kindly ask you to let us know
>> if you need help with that.
>>
>> Thank you! Kind regards,
>> BP Editors
>>
>> [1] w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#CiteOriginalPublication
>>
>>
>> --
>> Annette Greiner
>> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
>> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
> Centro de Informática
> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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> Annette Greiner
> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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