- From: Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 18:13:06 -0800
- To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Cc: Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAMFz4jghrTCJiD8+Cgig-FBFeBw96pY0d4WUxvnG83L6XDfiiA@mail.gmail.com>
Antoine and Riccardo, I really like this thread on using skos as a way of refining concepts. So +1 to your suggested approach for a way of using skos hierarchie in the DQV. I think this helps answer a similar question I have in the DUV. Regarding the Web Annotation Model Motivations, I see motivations as being a starting place to contextually describe a rationale for an annotation. I could see the use of skos as the way you are describing this as a means help refine the motivation definition. Eric S. On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks a lot, Riccardo! > > I'd suggest a small amendment: I we don't need dqv:hasDimension as a > subproperty of skos:broader. This would de-facto classify dqv:Metrics as > dqv:Concepts. While I'm generally not so fussy about dual-typing things as > skos:Concepts and other classes, here I'm not sure this will bring us > anything positive. > > My take is that using SKOS hierarchies in our context would rather pay off > as an option to organize the categories or the dimensions between them. > For example: > > ex:linguisticCompleteness skos:broader ex:completeness. > > This would bring us quite close to the patter used for motivations by the > Web Annotation model [1]. > There the SKOS relations hold between (extensions of) motivations. And our > own dqv:hasDimension/dqv:hasCategory would have for dqv:Metric a role > analogous to that of oa:motivatedBy for oa:Annotation. > > This pattern also allow to later reconcile different categories or > dimensions coming from different instanciations of DQV. Continuing my toy > example: > > ex1:linguisticCompleteness skos:closeMatch ex2:languageCoverage > > In the end I'm fairly sure following a very similar patter to that of Web > Annotation will pay off, as both DUV and DQV are already re-using bits of > the Annotation Model. But I don't know precisely when and how :-) > > A final comment: the Web Annotation model is still officially a moving > target. But they're progressing quite fast, and the Motivation part of the > model has been stable for quite a while so I wouldn't refrain from getting > inspiration from it. In fact this SKOS-based pattern has been used in many > other data models... > > Cheers, > > Antoine > > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/#extending-motivations > > On 10/27/15 6:28 PM, Riccardo Albertoni wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Following the discussion we had last friday's call concerning issue-205, >> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/205, >> a first proposal we might discuss in order to turn metrics, >> dimensions and categories into a skos hierarchy is the following >> >> >> Proposal 1: Let’s define >> -dqv:hasDimension and dqv:hasCategory as subproperties >> (rdfs:subPropertyOf) of skos:broader; >> -dqv:Category, dqv:Dimension, dqv:Metric as subclasses of >> (rdfs:subClassOf) skos:Concept. >> >> >> In this way, we have that every user-defined category/ dimension/ >> metric hierarchy is automatically mapped into a SKOS hierarchy. At the >> same time, this proposal remains “back-compatible” with DAQ, since we >> have dqv:Category, dqv:Dimension, dqv:Metric still mapped into their >> corresponding DAQ's metric, dimension, and category. >> >> >> What do you think? Does this work? any refinement? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Riccardo >> >> >> -- >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Riccardo Albertoni >> Istituto per la Matematica Applicata e Tecnologie Informatiche "Enrico >> Magenes" >> Consiglio Nazionale delle Ricerche >> via de Marini 6 - 16149 GENOVA - ITALIA >> tel. +39-010-6475624 - fax +39-010-6475660 >> e-mail: Riccardo.Albertoni@ge.imati.cnr.it <mailto: >> Riccardo.Albertoni@ge.imati.cnr.it> >> Skype: callto://riccardoalbertoni/ >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/riccardoalbertoni >> www: http://www.ge.imati.cnr.it/Albertoni >> http://purl.oclc.org/NET/riccardoAlbertoni >> FOAF:http://purl.oclc.org/NET/RiccardoAlbertoni/foaf >> > >
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