Re: Working on FPWD, more to do

I meant to say... see the License BP at

https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/5b764095b4f39c24e8c91ece4e35bb72df04146a

from around line 1386. That's one of the BPs I changed most.

HTH

Phil

On 28/01/2015 19:08, Phil Archer wrote:
> Thanks Eric,
>
> The BP template [1] is the basic guide. Key things I'd say:
>
> In the Why section, remember the first two axiomatic questions:
>
> Why this is unique to publishing or re-using data on the Web?
> How does this encourages publication or re-use of data on the Web?
>
> These can be answered in prose rather than bullet points but they get to
> heart of the problem the BP solves.
>
> Then the Intended Outcome. This is the normative bit, i.e. what we can
> judge an implementation to have done or not. MUST is very strong, SHOULD
> essentially means "comply or explain" (and your explanation for not
> doing so better be good). There is also MUST NOT, SHOULD NOT etc.
> available.
>
> And we should avoiding telling humans what they SHOULD do. We can,
> however, tell publishers what they SHOULD do in order to meet the needs
> of humans.
>
> Possible approach to implementation is where we offer help but it needs
> to be quite generic, perhaps pointing to other resources, multiple ways
> of achieving the intended outcome etc. There certainly shouldn't be any
> SHOULDs or MUSTs here.
>
> How to test - ideally the outcome is binary, pass/fail. Some BPs have
> included things like "download the dataset, write a script..." I don't
> agree with that approach. You're testing against the intended outcome.
> Ideally the test can be machine-tested but even for humans, the test
> must be deterministic.
>
> I'll try and spend more time on it tomorrow, Thursday.
>
> Thanks Eric as always
>
> Phil.
>
>
> [1] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#bp-template
> [2]
> https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/commit/5b764095b4f39c24e8c91ece4e35bb72df04146a
>
> On 28/01/2015 16:39, Eric Stephan wrote:
>> Phil and editors,
>>
>> I'm slammed today (Wednesday morning here) with a project, if all goes
>> well
>> I can help tomorrow.
>>
>> To save some time, what might be helpful if an editor could help give
>> some
>> specific guidance make an association that BP # (from the set of
>> 22-33)....
>> should read like BP #(from the set of 1-21).  It was helpful for instance
>> referencing the Metadata best practice when I wrote the Provenance best
>> practice.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric S.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been preparing the BP doc for its FPWD publication - a task that I
>>> have not yet completed as, I'm sorry to say, there is still quite a lot
>>> more to do and what I have done has taken a lot longer than I
>>> anticipated.
>>>
>>> I've been focused on a couple of issues.
>>>
>>> First, several BPs included RFC 2119 keywords in the possible
>>> implementation section and/or the why section. The BP template states
>>> that
>>> the Intended Outcome is normative - that's where MUST, SHOULD, SHOULD
>>> NOT
>>> etc. belong. They are repeated in the short description underneath the
>>> title but not elsewhere.
>>>
>>> In other words, some writers have evidently been a little confused about
>>> the structure. In trying to create a more regular structure I have
>>> had to
>>> reorder the text a little but, as far as possible, have kept my own
>>> views
>>> out of it (I haven't always succeeded).
>>>
>>> Taking out the RFC 2119 bits of the implementation sections has meant
>>> more
>>> than just removing emphasis, it's meant quite significant rewrites -
>>> more
>>> than I fee comfortable doing without WG review.
>>>
>>> I keep in mind Antoine's point about writing BPs that say what humans
>>> MUST
>>> do - so I've made a few edits to say what publishers MUST do for the
>>> benefit of human users.
>>>
>>> Some BPs needed more rewriting than others of course.
>>>
>>> In doing this I have long missed the deadline for getting the document
>>> published today, and, as I say, I've made such changes that I feel I
>>> have
>>> gone beyond editorial changes and really feel we need another WG review
>>> before publishing.
>>>
>>> So, at the risk of upsetting lots of people, I suggest:
>>>
>>> - I will do my best to make more changes tomorrow (caveat, I have a
>>> meeting in London tomorrow so I'll mostly be doing this on train and may
>>> not finish).
>>>
>>> - I encourage writers of BPs 1 - 21 to take a look at what I've changed
>>> and put back/ make any more changes you feel necessary.
>>>
>>> - If you wrote any of BPs 22 - 33, please take a careful look at the
>>> structure of the earlier ones and see if you want to make any changes to
>>> your text.
>>>
>>> - Editors - I've gone well beyond what I ought to do to your document
>>> here. I hope you don't mind.
>>>
>>> - Chairs - sorry, I really think the WG needs to look again and vote
>>> again
>>> on Friday.
>>>
>>> Again, I hope I haven't upset anyone here, but reading through the doc
>>> line by line I have felt significant changes were necessary.
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil Archer
>>> W3C Data Activity Lead
>>> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
>>>
>>> http://philarcher.org
>>> +44 (0)7887 767755
>>> @philarcher1
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Phil Archer
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http://www.w3.org/2013/data/

http://philarcher.org
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