Re: ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently there are no use cases for it

Hi Makx and Bernadette,

Perhaps from the perspective of versioning, dataset and ontologies can be
treated alike. So actually, we would be versioning resources.

Makx: the sentence you used seems to be open to many (possibly undesired
interpretations). Do you mean to say what I said above or something further
with ³an ontology is a type of dataset²?
More specifically, do you mean that:
1. every ontology O is a dataset?
2. an ontology O defines a type of dataset?
3. None of the above.

Regards,
João Paulo

From:  Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>
Date:  Friday, November 28, 2014 at 10:40 AM
To:  'Bernadette Farias Lóscio' <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, 'Christophe Guéret'
<christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>
Cc:  'Ghislain Atemezing' <auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr>,
<public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
Subject:  RE: ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently
there  are no use cases for it
Resent-From:  <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
Resent-Date:  Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:41:24 +0000

Bernadette,
 
Good point. In fact, an ontology is a type of dataset.
 
Makx.
 

From: Bernadette Farias Lóscio [mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 1:24 PM
To: Christophe Guéret
Cc: Ghislain Atemezing; public-dwbp-wg@w3.org
Subject: Re: ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently
there are no use cases for it
 

Hello Christophe,

 

I think it's gonna be easier if we don't make this difference. Then, in this
case, we need to make clear that a resource may denote a dataset or a
vocabulary. Do you agree?

 

Thanks,

Bernadette

 

2014-11-28 9:11 GMT-03:00 Christophe Guéret
<christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>:
> 
> Hoi,
> Do we really need to make the difference between data/metadata and
> datasets/vocabularies to speak about versioning ?
> IMHO it would be best to just focus on versioning resource identifiers. Then a
> requirement on the design of identifiers to ensure they are version-proof
> would be sufficient.
> Christophe
> 
>  
> 
> On 28 November 2014 at 13:00, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Ghislain,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks for adding one more use case and also for this dicussion about
>> versioning!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In my opinion, versioning metadata should be provided both for datasets and
>> vocabularies (ontologies). In the same way, it is important to have best
>> practices for URI design that helps to deal with these different versions.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> However, it is not clear for me if the new requirement *R-VersionURIDesign*:
>> ³Data should have a canonical way to design URIs for different snapshot of
>> the dataset.²  concerns versions of both (datasets and vocabularies).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Bernadette
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 2014-11-27 11:18 GMT-03:00 Ghislain Atemezing <auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr>:
>> 
>>  
>>> Dear Data-web-lovers,
>>> [ My 2 cents to solve this issue... ]
>>>> ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently there are no
>>>> use cases for it
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69
>>> I guess with the second round of UCs [1], we clearly identify that COMSODE's
>>> UC falls into versioning issue [2].
>>> 
>>> I've just added a new UC regarding BBC's ontologies, available here [3]. I
>>> was looking for a requirement dealing with designing URIs and versioning, to
>>> (maybe) make use of the COMURI document.
>>> 
>>> I've also proposed a new requirement *R-VersionURIDesign*?: ³Data should
>>> have a canonical way to design URIs for different snapshot of the dataset.²
>>> 
>>> Maybe I didn't check enough the document to find overlaps with existing
>>> requirements. If so, please thanks for pointing the right requirement.
>>> 
>>> I hope these UCs will motivate the presence of including versioning in the
>>> bp document.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Ghislain
>>> 
>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases
>>> [2] 
>>> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#Dataset_versioning_
>>> and_dataset_replication
>>> [3] 
>>> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#BBC_ontology_versio
>>> ning_and_Metadata
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>  
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