Re: DWBP Abstract comments....

>>Then, the question is: Is data usage information relevant to our context?

I think its difficult to talk about the addressing best practices of the
open data ecosystem without addressing data usage.

>> In my opinion, it is important because we are talking about Data on the
Web in general and not only about Publishing Data on the Web.

+1

Eric S

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
wrote:
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> Hi Eric and Makx,
>
> Thanks for your comments and suggestions!
>
> I'm gonna rewrite the Abstract considering your suggestions. However, I'm
> not sure about the suggested changes for sentence 3. The main idea behind
> this sentence is that it could be nice to have information about data
> usage. When possible, data consumers should provide information about data
> usage in such a way that it will be possible to find out who is using the
> data and how data has been used. I don't see this is an obligation, but as
> a recommendation (best practice).
>
> If data usage information is important to our context, I believe that we
> should have BP that recommend how/when to gather this information.
>
> Then, the question is: Is data usage information relevant to our context?
>
> In my opinion, it is important because we are talking about Data on the
> Web in general and not only about Publishing Data on the Web.
>
> kind regards,
> Bernadette
>
>
>
> 2014-12-16 12:52 GMT-03:00 Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for proposed edits. Just a couple of remarks in-line:
>>
>>
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>> *1: “This document provides best practices related to the publication and
>> usage of data on the Web designed to help support a self-sustaining
>> ecosystem.”*
>>
>> No changes just comments for sentence 1:  Loved the first sentence
>> particularly the term “self-sustaining ecosystem”, this concept to me
>> embodies the concept of   making the web data more valuable to the world
>> community than it is today.
>>
>> In this sentence, it is not entirely clear to which noun the clause
>> starting with ‘designed’ refers. Maybe better:
>>
>>
>>
>> “*This document provides best practices related to the publication and
>> usage of data on the Web. These best practices are designed to help support
>> a self-sustaining ecosystem*.”
>>
>>
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>> 2: “*Data should be published, discovered and understood by humans and
>> machines.”*
>>
>> Suggested changes for sentence 2:  I recommended changing the second
>> sentence to underscore producing and consuming data can be done by machines
>> and humans.
>>
>> This now implies that humans and machines should publish data. My
>> suggestion:
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>>
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>> “*Data should be published in such a way that it can be discovered and
>> understood by humans and machines*.”
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>> 3*:  “**Publishers should make data discoverable and when reused
>> consumers should acknowledge the data publisher. “*
>>
>>  Suggested changes for sentence 3:  I had to read this sentence several
>> times before I felt like like I understood the intent.  I recommended the
>> above rewording to make it a bit clearer, hopefully the original meaning
>> was changed.
>>
>> I think you did indeed change the meaning. The original sentence said
>> that the *re-use* of data should be discoverable. However, I do already
>> have a problem with the original sentence because it contains instructions
>> to re-users that may not always be valid. It seems to say that if a company
>> takes data from the Web, they need to advertise that they did (ShareAlike)
>> and need to acknowledge the source (Attribution). I wonder if we want to go
>> that far. For example, I don’t think there is a requirement for re-users of
>> data to make their product or service available on the Web or to advertise
>> it, and if data is published in the public domain (or under a CCZero
>> licence), a publisher does not ask for attribution so why make this a best
>> practice?
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>> Makx.
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> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
> Centro de Informática
> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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