- From: Simon Steyskal <simon.steyskal@wu.ac.at>
- Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:19:36 +0200
- To: me@harshp.com
- Cc: Eva Schlehahn <uld67@datenschutzzentrum.de>, public-dpvcg@w3.org
Hi! (Chiming in on the ODRL part of the conversation) > However, to date, I am not aware of any work attempting to model > consent using ODRL (that has published their approach). ODRL allows you to define so-called Privacy policies [1]: "A Policy that expresses a Rule over an Asset containing personal information." which would contain permissions & prohibitions tied to your PI. For example, such a policy could in ODRL be expressed like this: <http://example.com/policy:42> a odrl:Privacy ; odrl:permission [ a odrl:Permission ; odrl:target ex:asset_9898 ; odrl:action odrl:reproduce ; odrl:assigner ex:Alice ; odrl:assignee ex:Bob ; odrl:duty [ a odrl:Duty ; odrl:action odrl:obtainConsent ; odrl:output ex:Consent ; odrl:consentingParty ex:Alice ; odrl:consentedParty ex:Bob ; ] ] . Resembling a permission Alice has granted to Bob for reproducing her PI (denoted as asset_9898) under the condition that Bob obtains Alice's consent. https://www.w3.org/TR/odrl-vocab/#term-consentingParty - party to obtain consent from https://www.w3.org/TR/odrl-vocab/#term-consentedParty - party who obtains the consent https://www.w3.org/TR/odrl-vocab/#term-obtainConsent - To obtain verifiable consent to perform the requested action in relation to the Asset. https://www.w3.org/TR/odrl-vocab/#term-output - specifies the Asset which is created from the output of the Action. However, ODRL does NOT define: 1) HOW & WHEN consent has to be obtained, i.e., HOW & WHEN fulfillment of the duty has to be verified/checked 2) HOW consent has to "look like", i.e., what information ex:Consent has to contain HTH, simon [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/odrl-vocab/#term-Privacy --- DDipl.-Ing. Simon Steyskal Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna www: http://www.steyskal.info/ twitter: @simonsteys Am 2018-08-17 09:04, schrieb Eva Schlehahn: > Hi Harsh, > > knowing the purpose of the processing ahead of time is one of the key > cornerstones of processing anyway, at least when personal data is > concerned. You recognized correctly that OWL can help then. Even > though I have no technology backoground, I got it that this was one of > the considerations in favor of OWL made in another project I was in. > So if anyone on this list has experience with ODRL, this would indeed > be quite useful for a more concrete comparison. > > Greetings from Kiel in northern Germany, > > Eva > > Landesbeauftragte für Datenschutz Schleswig-Holstein > Holstenstraße 98, 24103 Kiel, Tel. +49 431 988-1200, Fax -1223 > mail@datenschutzzentrum.de - https://www.datenschutzzentrum.de/ > Eva Schlehahn, uld67@datenschutzzentrum.de > > Informationen über die Verarbeitung der personenbezogenen Daten durch > die Landesbeauftragte für Datenschutz und zur verschlüsselten > E-Mail-Kommunikation: > https://datenschutzzentrum.de/datenschutzerklaerung/ > > Am 16.08.2018 um 18:52 schrieb Harsh: >> Ah! Thank you Axel. >> So the assumption I make from this is that it is possible to use ODRL, >> but simpler methods may exist (such as the OWL model). That being >> said, the work ahead would then be comparing these, and finding their >> strengths and complexities in terms of modeling consent. >> >> This cleared up a lot of things in my mind regarding your (SPECIAL) >> choice of using OWL as well. Mainly being that it is specific to the >> use-case and works quite well if the purposes (w.r.t consent) are >> known ahead of time. >> >> Regards, >> >> Harsh >> >> >> On 16/08/18 16:06, Axel Polleres wrote: >>> </chairhat> >>> >>> Simon might be more into this, we had some work using ODRL for >>> modeling various Data access policies [1,2] >>> The reason for the choice of a simpler OWL taxonomy and fixed >>> concepts (rathrer than describing each of these in detail in terms of >>> more finr-granular ODRL policies, was AFAIR that the use cases in >>> SPECIAL didn't require it and that with this OWL-based approach >>> compliance checking can be defined in a relatively straightforward >>> manner. >>> >>> 1. Simon Steyskal and Axel Polleres. Towards formal semantics for >>> ODRL policies. In /9th International Web Rule Symposium >>> (RuleML2015)/, number 9202 in Lecture Notes in Computer Science >>> (LNCS), pages 360--375, Berlin, Germany, August 2015. Springer. [ >>> .pdf >>> <http://www.polleres.net/publications/stey-poll-2015RuleML.pdf> ] >>> >>> 2. Simon Steyskal and Axel Polleres. Defining expressive access >>> policies for linked data using the ODRL ontology 2.0. In /Proceedings >>> of the SEMANTiCS 2014/, ACM International Conference Proceedings >>> Series, Leipzig, Germany, September 2014. ACM. Short paper. [ .pdf >>> <http://www.polleres.net/publications/stey-poll-2014SEMANTiCS.pdf> ] >>> >>> -- Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres >>> Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna >>> url: http://www.polleres.net/ twitter: @AxelPolleres >>> >>>> On 16.08.2018, at 16:16, Harsh <me@harshp.com >>>> <mailto:me@harshp.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I wish to know the community's informed opinions about any concerns >>>> for using ODRL to model Consent for GDPR. >>>> >>>> To elaborate: >>>> >>>> Consent can be modeled as the Data Subject providing permissions for >>>> purposes or activities for their (specific) personal data. ODRL >>>> provides a systematic way to model such permissions and >>>> prohibitions. >>>> >>>> However, to date, I am not aware of any work attempting to model >>>> consent using ODRL (that has published their approach). There has >>>> been use of RDF(S) and OWL [1,2] to model these concepts using terms >>>> which ODRL (seemingly) already provides. >>>> >>>> Having not worked with ODRL before, it would be valuable to know the >>>> community's thoughts on using what is essentially a rights language >>>> to express consent as a legal policy using the vocabulary. >>>> >>>> In terms of DPVCG, this discussion is essentially evaluating an >>>> existing ontology (ODRL) for a particular use-case (representation >>>> of given consent). >>>> >>>> [1] Sabrina Kirrane, Javier D. Fernández, Wouter Dullaert, Uros >>>> Milosevic, Axel Polleres, Piero Bonatti, Rigo Wenning, Olha Drozd >>>> and Philip Raschke.*A Scalable Consent, Transparency and Compliance >>>> Architecture.* Proceedings of the Posters and Demos Track of the >>>> Extended Semantic Web Conference (ESWC 2018) >>>> >>>> [2] Kaniz Fatema, Ensar Hadziselimovic, _Harshvardhan J. Pandit_, >>>> Dave Lewis. *Compliance through Informed Consent: Semantic Based >>>> Consent Permission and Data Management Model. *Society, Privacy and >>>> the Semantic Web - Policy and Technology (PrivOn), co-located with >>>> ISWC 2017 >>>> /Society, Privacy and the Semantic Web - Policy and Technology >>>> (PrivOn), co-located with ISWC 2017/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> -- --- >>>> Harshvardhan Pandit >>>> PhD Researcher >>>> ADAPT Centre >>>> Trinity College Dublin >>> >>
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