- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:43:51 +0200
- To: paola.dimaio@gmail.com
- CC: W3C Disaster Management Ontology List <public-disaster-management-ont@w3.org>, W3C System <sysreq@w3.org>, Fumihiro Kato <fumi@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4678F6D7.9020203@w3.org>
paola.dimaio@gmail.com wrote: > thanks folks, not important per se, just checking that we have our > settings right > > if it was a spam filter issue, then Gavin would have received the > message directly because william replied both to the list and to Gav in > cc, Gav can you confirm that please > > if that so, how did the message get unblocked from the spam filter just now? > did someone mechanically unspammed it, or does the system processes > messages in batches? > You misunderstand. That message was probably not spammed (or unblocked from the spam filter). It is probably way more simple than that: the spamfilter on our server had a queue of zillions of incoming emails that had to be processed before that very mail was processed and found not guilty:-) Ivan > at least we know how much to rely on the list for real time for future > correspondence > > Thanks a lot for your prompt support > P > > On 6/20/07, *Ivan Herman* <ivan@w3.org <mailto:ivan@w3.org>> wrote: > > Paola, > > I forward your questions to our system people who may know the answer. > > However, the unfortunate fact is that, time to time, our spam filters > are absolutely overloaded which does create, sometimes, long delays. > (You should realize that we have tons of mailing lists and you do not > even want to know the number of spams that are filtered out every days. > A real disaster:-) > > Ivan > > paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote: > > HI Ivan > > cc public list > > > > Just checking the dynamics of this mailing list > > > > william posted this message on june 20, 3.41 am , which si 12 > hours ago > > Gavin replied 8 hours ago > > but I received it only 2 hours ago in my inbox > > > > could you please let me know what kind of email group settings could > > prevent this (long) gaps > > in the communication? are there any tricks that Iwe should know of? > > thanks > > > > Paola > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: *William Waites* <ww@groovy.net <mailto:ww@groovy.net> > <mailto:ww@groovy.net <mailto:ww@groovy.net>>> > > Date: Jun 20, 2007 3:41 AM > > Subject: Re: automagic notifications and coordination... > > To: Gavin Treadgold <gt@kestrel.co.nz <mailto:gt@kestrel.co.nz> > <mailto: gt@kestrel.co.nz <mailto:gt@kestrel.co.nz>>> > > Cc: W3C Disaster Management Ontology List > > <public-disaster-management-ont@w3.org > <mailto:public-disaster-management-ont@w3.org> > > <mailto: public-disaster-management-ont@w3.org > <mailto:public-disaster-management-ont@w3.org>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 11:09:33PM +1200, Gavin Treadgold wrote: > >> > >> E.g. within the plan may be a list of people that need to be > notified > >> if a certain event occurs. Wouldn't it be fantastic if the simple act > >> of editing the plan dynamically modified the actual group within the > >> messaging module as soon as the change is submitted (and approved if > >> required). And a link is created automatically next to the list in > >> the plan that takes the user directly to the form to send out an > >> alert using the messaging module. > > > > Nifty indeed, however in practical scenarios it is important to > address > > infrastructure that would normally be used for this sort of thing that > > may not be available. > > > > As a case in point, in Southern Mississippi and Louisiana, in the wake > > of Hurricane Katrina, it was a good month and a half or two months > > before the cellular networks were functioning with any semblance of > > normalcy and even then only in some areas. Notifications by SMS or > > telephone call would have been impossible. All communications in the > > region for the initial period coordinated with the assistance of the > > Amateur Radio Service (excepting perhaps the US Navy and National > Guard > > who have their own UHF/VHF facilities). I believe that, at the > > beginning at least, it was not well known by the various authorities > > that the Amateur Radio Service *exists* to provide communications > > support in emergency scenarios where the normal infrastructure is > > non-existant or destroyed. > > > > Simply a caution about depending too much upon infrastructure that may > > disappear the moment it is needed... > > > > Another anectode from that time concerns the FEMA web site that was > > intended to allow survivours to claim their benefit disbursement from > > the Federal Government (around $2k IIRC). Putting aside the red tape > > associated with, "I have no ID, it was all washed away", there was a > > very serious problem: the web site was constructed using proprietary > > technology (in this case Microsoft's Active-X extensions). Why > does this > > matter? Well the dozens or hundreds of donated computers which many > > volunteers attempted to set up for the survivours to use were useless > > for this purpose because (1) the web site did not work with Linux and > > (2) most of the computers were too old to run anything recent > enough to > > support the extensions required by FEMA's web site. This is one of the > > clearest examples that I know of about proprietary and encumbered > software > > contributing directly to the misery and despair of very many people. > > > > Cheers, > > -w > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Paola Di Maio ***** > > School of Information Technology > > Mae Fah Luang University > > Chiang Rai - Thailand > > ********************************************* > > -- > > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > PGP Key: http://www.cwi.nl/%7Eivan/AboutMe/pgpkey.html > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > > > > > -- > > > > Paola Di Maio ***** > School of Information Technology > Mae Fah Luang University > Chiang Rai - Thailand > ********************************************* -- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ PGP Key: http://www.cwi.nl/%7Eivan/AboutMe/pgpkey.html FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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